ROTFL!!! Yes- it was john Cage originally. (01)
On 9/5/07 11:20 AM, "Obrst, Leo J." <lobrst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: (02)
> This sounds like John Cage's 4'33", and is legitimate. I "heard" it at
> Oberlin College in the late 60s. Actually it can be played with any set
> of instruments: very versatile.
>
> http://www.naxos.com/composerinfo/165.htm.
> http://www.andante.com/article/article.cfm?id=16636
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Duane Nickull
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:49 PM
>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Current Semantic Web Layer pizza
>> (was ckae)
>>
>> I've noted of late that Ontology, semantics and philosophy seem to be
>> inseparable.
>>
>> My take:
>>
>> The tree makes the sound *if* sound is defined as perceptable
> (audible)
>> waves of pressure. Music exists/does not exist only if there is a
>> definition which supports some quantitative metric for its' being.
>>
>> I would support direct neural stimulation as music. Music is
>> also highly
>> subjective. Some would not consider silence music however there are
>> examples of music where silence can be used to punctuate
>> non-silence. In
>> extreme cases, this can last up to 1.5 years
>>
>> http://list.mail.virginia.edu/pipermail/silence/2006-January/00
> 1822.html
>>
>> (Not sure if this is real or hoax). The longest actual
>> acknowledged silence
>> in a compelted musical work was a concert in Woodstock, New York.
> David
>> Tudor ( an experimental artist) took the stage, bowed to the
>> audience, sat
>> down at the piano, opened the score - and did not touch the keys for 4
>> minutes and 33 seconds, stood up, bowed again and left the stage to
>> thunderous applause.
>>
>> Reminds me of a famous quote by one of my favorite metnors:
>>
>> "Ever get the feeling you've been ripped off?".
>>
>> Duane
>> (quote by John Lydon, Sex Pistols)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/5/07 9:32 AM, "Randall R Schulz" <rschulz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday 05 September 2007 09:16, Duane Nickull wrote:
>>>> On 9/5/07 8:44 AM, "John F. Sowa" <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Duane,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheet music is *not* music. It is a written language,
>>>>> which has a very definite syntax, semantics, and pragmatics.
>>>>> The pragmatics, of course, is how the sheet is supposed to
>>>>> be interpreted by a performer.
>>>>
>>>> You are correct. Music is only music when it creates sound waves.
>>>
>>> Hmmm... I don't buy the "if a tree falls in the woods ..."
>> bit, but in
>>> this case, music is only music in a perceiving human's mind.
>>>
>>> In fact, I'm inclined to believe that some day we really
>> will figure out
>>> how to directly stimulate sensory neurons in a sufficiently precise,
>>> detailed and complete way that totally internal "virtual
>> reality" will
>>> be possible. Then a person could experience music in the
>> absence of the
>>> pressure waves we call "sound."
>>>
>>>
>>> Randall Schulz
>>>
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