This sounds like John Cage's 4'33", and is legitimate. I "heard" it at
Oberlin College in the late 60s. Actually it can be played with any set
of instruments: very versatile. (01)
http://www.naxos.com/composerinfo/165.htm.
http://www.andante.com/article/article.cfm?id=16636
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>Duane Nickull
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>I've noted of late that Ontology, semantics and philosophy seem to be
>inseparable.
>
>My take:
>
>The tree makes the sound *if* sound is defined as perceptable
(audible)
>waves of pressure. Music exists/does not exist only if there is a
>definition which supports some quantitative metric for its' being.
>
>I would support direct neural stimulation as music. Music is
>also highly
>subjective. Some would not consider silence music however there are
>examples of music where silence can be used to punctuate
>non-silence. In
>extreme cases, this can last up to 1.5 years
>
>http://list.mail.virginia.edu/pipermail/silence/2006-January/00
1822.html
>
>(Not sure if this is real or hoax). The longest actual
>acknowledged silence
>in a compelted musical work was a concert in Woodstock, New York.
David
>Tudor ( an experimental artist) took the stage, bowed to the
>audience, sat
>down at the piano, opened the score - and did not touch the keys for 4
>minutes and 33 seconds, stood up, bowed again and left the stage to
>thunderous applause.
>
>Reminds me of a famous quote by one of my favorite metnors:
>
>"Ever get the feeling you've been ripped off?".
>
>Duane
>(quote by John Lydon, Sex Pistols)
>
>
>
>On 9/5/07 9:32 AM, "Randall R Schulz" <rschulz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 05 September 2007 09:16, Duane Nickull wrote:
>>> On 9/5/07 8:44 AM, "John F. Sowa" <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Duane,
>>>>
>>>> Sheet music is *not* music. It is a written language,
>>>> which has a very definite syntax, semantics, and pragmatics.
>>>> The pragmatics, of course, is how the sheet is supposed to
>>>> be interpreted by a performer.
>>>
>>> You are correct. Music is only music when it creates sound waves.
>>
>> Hmmm... I don't buy the "if a tree falls in the woods ..."
>bit, but in
>> this case, music is only music in a perceiving human's mind.
>>
>> In fact, I'm inclined to believe that some day we really
>will figure out
>> how to directly stimulate sensory neurons in a sufficiently precise,
>> detailed and complete way that totally internal "virtual
>reality" will
>> be possible. Then a person could experience music in the
>absence of the
>> pressure waves we call "sound."
>>
>>
>> Randall Schulz
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