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From: Christopher Menzel <cmenzel@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:38:56 -0500
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On Sep 5, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Schiffel, Jeffrey A wrote:
> Leo J.Obrst wrote:
>>> This sounds like John Cage's 4'33", and is legitimate. I
>> "heard" it at Oberlin College in the late 60s.
> Chris Menzel replied:
>> Surely you don't want those scare quotes, Leo!  Seems to me
>> you heard Cage's piece in exactly the same sense in which
>> you'd have heard a Bach partita.
> Oddly, I also heard it at Oberlin in the late 60s. By that time,  
> John Cage had moved from being an avant-garde composer into  
> philosophy of music.
> Clearly, there was nothing to hear for 4'33".    (01)

Nonetheless, you heard *the piece*.  If there is a 2-bar rest in the  
middle of the first movement of a symphony, say, you don't stop  
hearing the symphony during the silence.  Cage's piece pushes that  
fact to the limit.    (02)

> While the undergrads were intrigued, most everyone else thought it  
> a little silly, and performance art rather than musical art.    (03)

Good luck with that distinction. :-)    (04)

-chris    (05)

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