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Re: [ontolog-forum] Tighter control of ontolog forum?

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From: "Azamat" <abdoul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:06:24 +0200
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I can believe reading this.
Somebody pops up out of nowhere (or iphone), self-designating himself as 
among "a serious ontology people", and giving unsolicting advices how to 
bury the forum, which
mostly due to the policy of openness and tolerance held by its conveners, 
particularly Peter Yim, is still alive and even booming unlike other 
listings.    (01)

Re. SUO. Just because of making the outstanding concept a featured idea, it 
is not a total loss. Sooner or latter, the project will be reanimated and 
realized, here or there. What is clearly missing: a strong motivation added 
with pooling resources of best ontologies.    (02)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Welty" <cawelty@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:33 PM
Subject: [ontolog-forum] Tighter control of ontolog forum?    (03)


>
> As many of you have no doubt heard, Wikipedia, aggressive bastion of open
> collaboration, is strongly considering finally giving in and closing its
> editorial process somewhat.  The new model being proposed and supported by 
> a
> majority of wikipedians, including its founder, is that anyone will be 
> able to
> edit, but all edits (perhaps constrained to "all edits on higher traffic 
> pages")
> will need to be approved by a "trusted" editor, of which there are many
> (thousands?).
>
> Pure openness was key to bootstrapping wikipedia's content, but now that 
> it is
> among the most frequented and trusted web sites, it has become a common 
> target
> of spam, pranks, and general maliciousness.
>
> I know there are many in ontolog who prefer a purely open forum, but I 
> think the
> failure of SUO and the continuing nonsense in this forum - which make it 
> the
> butt of many jokes and keeps a lot of otherwise serious ontology people 
> away (I
> include myself in this category, you may argue with the "otherwise 
> serious" bit)
>  - are evidence that the open model doesn't work here.
>
> This forum is not taken seriously because it is too open.  I suggest 
> adopting a
> model like the one Wikipedia is considering, in which we establish a sort 
> of
> active editorial board - a group of trusted moderators rather than just 
> one, any
> of whom can approve a post and thus the flow of information will not be
> significantly slowed, power and control will not be in the hands of one 
> person,
> and the quality will increase.
>
> -- 
> Dr. Christopher A. Welty                    IBM Watson Research Center
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