Dear Dr. Ulozas, (01)
While it is your prerogative to leave this forum at any time you desire. (02)
We are, in fact, trying to take this conversation off-list. I
apologize if this annoyed you. (03)
However, if this whole matter appears to you to be a juvenile "pissing
contest," then I think you have totally missed the point. This is of
strategic importance to this and other similar communities, as it
relates to core-values and sustainability issues concerning open
collaboration among members of trusted communities of practice.
Various messages within this very thread should probably have
explained it clearly enough (or I would be happy to answer any
question you may have, off-list.) (04)
 the instructions to unsubscribe is at the footer of every
message. If you run into problems, feel free to email me offline. (05)
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Bernard Ulozas <bulozas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This pissing contest is so juvenile I suggest you take it off-line and if
> you're that concerned, hire lawyers to settle disputes. Airing dirty laundry
> in this forum makes the entire organization seem pathetic. Pls remove me
> from further emails. (07)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:12 PM
> To: Brand Niemann
> Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website
> Please do not try to create distractions.
> What does your telling Jerry Smith in a DoD meeting, or your telling anyone
> else at any other setting have to do with the matter at hand?
> ... If it were a government legal counsel giving an official opinion on this
> specific case, it would definitely merit attention. If it were just your
> opinion that you had expressed to someone else under some setting, please
> spare me; and, kindly try not use to distract the members of this community,
> I trust they are in a position to discern.
> By the way, I am sure basic decency and respect for others' rights are
> within the expectation of any event I or members of the Ontolog community
> have a part in co-organizing. Having government agencies among the
> co-organizers does not change or put a waiver on those values and
> Please also note that you took the material from the Ontolog website, where
> very clearly stated licensing arrangements have been posted. As such, you
> are expected to abide by those copyright/licensing arrangements.
> If you took the same published material, say, from a government agency
> website, and if it doesn't specify any restrictions, then you may safely
> assume the material is in the public domain. However, the latter is not the
> case here.
> Therefore, if anyone should apologize, it is my humble opinion that you
> should apologize to the authors of the OntologySummit2012 Communique ...
> even after you had gone ahead comply with the use license or choose to take
> the material down.
> Regards. =ppy
> -- (08)
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Peter, I just spoke with Jerry Smith in a DoD meeting we were both in
>> and told him that I am informed that because this was a
>> government-sponsored and -hosted event your content claims do not have
>> merit and interfere with my work, so I would ask for an apology. Best
>> regards, Brand (09)
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Peter Yim
>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:09 PM
>> To: Brand Niemann
>> Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
>> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website
>> Leo Obrst, our Ontology Summit general chair has already notified you,
>> on 15-Apr-2012, ref.
>> Until you have made proper attribution to our work, and clearly state
>> on your website that your work is also openly shared under OPL v1.0 or
>> (cc by-sa 3.0), please remove our Summit content from your website.
>> [ while the summit content on the OntologWiki is licensed under OPL
>> v1.0 or (cc by-sa 3.0), work from the OntologySummit2012 website is
>> specifically license under (cc by-sa 3.0) ]
>> To date, you have not been responsive to that request yet, nor have
>> you taken down the content from your MindTouch : Semanticommunity.info
>> : AOL Government site.
>> I can still see our OntologySummit2012 website content, copied
>> word-for-word on your site, but have yet to see proper attribution,
>> and the site license from MindTouch, and/or Semanticommunity.info
>> and/or AOL Government stating that they operates under the (cc by-sa
>> 3.0) open content license.
>> I personally think that this is very unprofessional of you to use our
>> material and disregard our IPR. You went ahead and copied the
>> ontology-summit team's work-in-progress without their consent; and
>> worse, despite the author's specific request to you to hold off until
>> we publish, you went ahead and published that on your site even before
>> our team has released that work and publish it themselves. This is not
>> the kind of behavior we expect from "trusted members" of the community at
>> PLEASE STOP YOUR INFRINGEMENT.
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> Peter Yim
>> -- (010)
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Thank you. I looked at your work and think it is similar to what I am
>>> trying to do:
>>> nique#Ontology (011)
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