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Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website

To: Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:12:16 -0700
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Brand,    (01)


Please do not try to create distractions.    (02)

What does your telling Jerry Smith in a DoD meeting, or your telling
anyone else at any other setting have to do with the matter at hand?
... If it were a government legal counsel giving an official opinion
on this specific case, it would definitely merit attention. If it were
just your opinion that you had expressed to someone else under some
setting, please spare me; and, kindly try not use to distract the
members of this community, I trust they are in a position to discern.    (03)

By the way, I am sure basic decency and respect for others' rights are
within the expectation of any event I or members of the Ontolog
community have a part in co-organizing. Having government agencies
among the co-organizers does not change or put a waiver on those
values and expectations.    (04)

Please also note that you took the material from the Ontolog website,
where very clearly stated licensing arrangements have been posted. As
such, you are expected to abide by those copyright/licensing
arrangements.    (05)

If you took the same published material, say, from a government agency
website, and if it doesn't specify any restrictions, then you may
safely assume the material is in the public domain. However, the
latter is not the case here.    (06)

Therefore, if anyone should apologize, it is my humble opinion that
you should apologize to the authors of the OntologySummit2012
Communique ... even after you had gone ahead comply with the use
license or choose to take the material down.    (07)


Regards. =ppy
--    (08)


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter, I just spoke with Jerry Smith in a DoD meeting we were both in and
> told him that I am informed that because this was a government-sponsored and
> -hosted event your content claims do not have merit and interfere with my
> work, so I would ask for an apology. Best regards, Brand    (09)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter
> Yim
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:09 PM
> To: Brand Niemann
> Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website
>
> Brand,    (010)


> Leo Obrst, our Ontology Summit general chair has already notified you, on
> 15-Apr-2012, ref.
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2012-04/msg00081.html
> that,
> //
> Until you have made proper attribution to our work, and clearly state on
> your website that your work is also openly shared under OPL v1.0 or (cc
> by-sa 3.0), please remove our Summit content from your website.
> //
> [ while the summit content on the OntologWiki is licensed under OPL
> v1.0 or (cc by-sa 3.0), work from the OntologySummit2012 website is
> specifically license under (cc by-sa 3.0) ]
>
> To date, you have not been responsive to that request yet, nor have you
> taken down the content from your MindTouch : Semanticommunity.info
> : AOL Government site.
>
> I can still see our OntologySummit2012 website content, copied word-for-word
> on your site, but have yet to see proper attribution, and the site license
> from MindTouch, and/or Semanticommunity.info and/or AOL Government stating
> that they operates under the (cc by-sa
> 3.0) open content license.
>
> I personally think that this is very unprofessional of you to use our
> material and disregard our IPR. You went ahead and copied the
> ontology-summit team's work-in-progress without their consent; and worse,
> despite the author's specific request to you to hold off until we publish,
> you went ahead and published that on your site even before our team has
> released that work and publish it themselves. This is not the kind of
> behavior we expect from "trusted members" of the community at all.
>
> PLEASE STOP YOUR INFRINGEMENT.
>
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> Peter Yim
> --    (011)


> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Thank you. I looked at your work and think it is similar to what I am
>> trying to do:
>>
>> http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Ontology_Summit_2012_Commu
>> nique#Ontology
>
>    (012)

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