This is entirely too personal for a post to the forum. (01)
This whole discussion seems to have degenerated into childishness and
personal feuds that are unbecoming to all involved. (02)
I can see that there is some factual merit on both sides but that seems
to no longer be the issue. (03)
Is there a wording of an attribution that would put this matter to rest? (04)
Is attribution the only issue? (05)
Lets get this settled and out of my inbox. (06)
Ron (07)
On 21/04/2012 9:05 AM, Debmacp wrote:
> Brand if your objective is to prove you are a brat you have succeeded. Either
>post the attribution or remove the content.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Peter Yim<peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Brand,
>>
>> As I mentioned in my last response, whatever you say to Jerry is
>> irrelevant to the case at hand. Please take that off this mailing
>> list.
>>
>> Brand Niemann, would you stop creating distractions and do what you
>> need to do, and let me repeat that again: STOP YOUR INFRINGEMENT OF
>> OUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTIES RIGHTS !
>>
>> =ppy
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Brand Niemann<bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Jerry, Since you and Peter want to persist in this, I say: Stop it and
>>> Apologize.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also say: Write down what you heard me say in that DoD meeting (where I
>>> was ask to present) what you heard me say before, during, and after the
>>> meeting, and we can ask the four other people in attendance what they heard.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The purpose of the email was to say there were witnesses to what I said in
>>> response to you and they were satisfied with my answers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards, Brand
>>
>>> From: jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx [mailto:jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 9:41 PM
>>> To: bniemann@xxxxxxx; peter.yim@xxxxxxxx
>>> Cc: ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brand,
>>>
>>> I don't recall any such words at all.
>>>
>>> Kindly explain what you are trying to do with an email such as this.
>>>
>>> Your statement is untrue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Brand Niemann<bniemann@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: 'Peter Yim'<peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>; jerrylsmit<jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx>
>>> Cc: 'Ontology Summit 2012 discussion'<ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 4:36 pm
>>> Subject: RE: [ontology-summit] Summit Website
>>>
>>> Peter, I just spoke with Jerry Smith in a DoD meeting we were both in and
>>>
>>> told him that I am informed that because this was a government-sponsored and
>>>
>>> -hosted event your content claims do not have merit and interfere with my
>>>
>>> work, so I would ask for an apology. Best regards, Brand
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter
>>>
>>> Yim
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:09 PM
>>>
>>> To: Brand Niemann
>>>
>>> Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brand,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Leo Obrst, our Ontology Summit general chair has already notified you, on
>>>
>>> 15-Apr-2012, ref.
>>>
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2012-04/msg00081.html
>>>
>>> that,
>>>
>>> //
>>>
>>> Until you have made proper attribution to our work, and clearly state on
>>>
>>> your website that your work is also openly shared under OPL v1.0 or (cc
>>>
>>> by-sa 3.0), please remove our Summit content from your website.
>>>
>>> //
>>>
>>> [ while the summit content on the OntologWiki is licensed under OPL
>>>
>>> v1.0 or (cc by-sa 3.0), work from the OntologySummit2012 website is
>>>
>>> specifically license under (cc by-sa 3.0) ]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To date, you have not been responsive to that request yet, nor have you
>>>
>>> taken down the content from your MindTouch : Semanticommunity.info
>>>
>>> : AOL Government site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can still see our OntologySummit2012 website content, copied word-for-word
>>>
>>> on your site, but have yet to see proper attribution, and the site license
>>>
>>> from MindTouch, and/or Semanticommunity.info and/or AOL Government stating
>>>
>>> that they operates under the (cc by-sa
>>>
>>> 3.0) open content license.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I personally think that this is very unprofessional of you to use our
>>>
>>> material and disregard our IPR. You went ahead and copied the
>>>
>>> ontology-summit team's work-in-progress without their consent; and worse,
>>>
>>> despite the author's specific request to you to hold off until we publish,
>>>
>>> you went ahead and published that on your site even before our team has
>>>
>>> released that work and publish it themselves. This is not the kind of
>>>
>>> behavior we expect from "trusted members" of the community at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PLEASE STOP YOUR INFRINGEMENT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks& regards. =ppy
>>>
>>> Peter Yim
>>>
>>> --
>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brand Niemann<bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you. I looked at your work and think it is similar to what I am
>>>> trying to do:
>>>> http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Ontology_Summit_2012_Commu
>>>> nique#Ontology
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