This pissing contest is so juvenile I suggest you take it off-line and if
you're that concerned, hire lawyers to settle disputes. Airing dirty laundry
in this forum makes the entire organization seem pathetic. Pls remove me
from further emails. (01)
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From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:12 PM
To: Brand Niemann
Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website (02)
Brand, (03)
Please do not try to create distractions. (04)
What does your telling Jerry Smith in a DoD meeting, or your telling anyone
else at any other setting have to do with the matter at hand?
... If it were a government legal counsel giving an official opinion on this
specific case, it would definitely merit attention. If it were just your
opinion that you had expressed to someone else under some setting, please
spare me; and, kindly try not use to distract the members of this community,
I trust they are in a position to discern. (05)
By the way, I am sure basic decency and respect for others' rights are
within the expectation of any event I or members of the Ontolog community
have a part in co-organizing. Having government agencies among the
co-organizers does not change or put a waiver on those values and
expectations. (06)
Please also note that you took the material from the Ontolog website, where
very clearly stated licensing arrangements have been posted. As such, you
are expected to abide by those copyright/licensing arrangements. (07)
If you took the same published material, say, from a government agency
website, and if it doesn't specify any restrictions, then you may safely
assume the material is in the public domain. However, the latter is not the
case here. (08)
Therefore, if anyone should apologize, it is my humble opinion that you
should apologize to the authors of the OntologySummit2012 Communique ...
even after you had gone ahead comply with the use license or choose to take
the material down. (09)
Regards. =ppy
-- (010)
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter, I just spoke with Jerry Smith in a DoD meeting we were both in
> and told him that I am informed that because this was a
> government-sponsored and -hosted event your content claims do not have
> merit and interfere with my work, so I would ask for an apology. Best
> regards, Brand (011)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Peter Yim
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:09 PM
> To: Brand Niemann
> Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website
>
> Brand, (012)
> Leo Obrst, our Ontology Summit general chair has already notified you,
> on 15-Apr-2012, ref.
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2012-04/msg00081.html
> that,
> //
> Until you have made proper attribution to our work, and clearly state
> on your website that your work is also openly shared under OPL v1.0 or
> (cc by-sa 3.0), please remove our Summit content from your website.
> //
> [ while the summit content on the OntologWiki is licensed under OPL
> v1.0 or (cc by-sa 3.0), work from the OntologySummit2012 website is
> specifically license under (cc by-sa 3.0) ]
>
> To date, you have not been responsive to that request yet, nor have
> you taken down the content from your MindTouch : Semanticommunity.info
> : AOL Government site.
>
> I can still see our OntologySummit2012 website content, copied
> word-for-word on your site, but have yet to see proper attribution,
> and the site license from MindTouch, and/or Semanticommunity.info
> and/or AOL Government stating that they operates under the (cc by-sa
> 3.0) open content license.
>
> I personally think that this is very unprofessional of you to use our
> material and disregard our IPR. You went ahead and copied the
> ontology-summit team's work-in-progress without their consent; and
> worse, despite the author's specific request to you to hold off until
> we publish, you went ahead and published that on your site even before
> our team has released that work and publish it themselves. This is not
> the kind of behavior we expect from "trusted members" of the community at
all.
>
> PLEASE STOP YOUR INFRINGEMENT.
>
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> Peter Yim
> -- (013)
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Thank you. I looked at your work and think it is similar to what I am
>> trying to do:
>>
>> http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Ontology_Summit_2012_Comm
>> u
>> nique#Ontology
>
> (014)
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