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Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website

To: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx" <jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx>, "ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Debmacp <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:05:04 -0400
Message-id: <22ED9232-8139-4D53-8D8B-0785CB8DCF92@xxxxxxxxx>
Brand if your objective is to prove you are a brat you have succeeded. Either 
post the attribution or remove the content.     (01)

Sent from my iPhone    (02)

On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:    (03)

> Brand,
> 
> As I mentioned in my last response, whatever you say to Jerry is
> irrelevant to the case at hand. Please take that off this mailing
> list.
> 
> Brand Niemann, would you stop creating distractions and do what you
> need to do, and let me repeat that again:  STOP YOUR INFRINGEMENT OF
> OUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTIES RIGHTS !
> 
> =ppy
> --
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Jerry, Since you and Peter want to persist in this, I say: Stop it and
>> Apologize.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I also say: Write down what you heard me say in that DoD meeting (where I
>> was ask to present) what you heard me say before, during, and after the
>> meeting, and we can ask the four other people in attendance what they heard.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The purpose of the email was to say there were witnesses to what I said in
>> response to you and they were satisfied with my answers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards, Brand
> 
> 
>> From: jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx [mailto:jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 9:41 PM
>> To: bniemann@xxxxxxx; peter.yim@xxxxxxxx
>> Cc: ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brand,
>> 
>> I don't recall any such words at all.
>> 
>> Kindly explain what you are trying to do with an email such as this.
>> 
>> Your statement is untrue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx>
>> To: 'Peter Yim' <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>; jerrylsmit <jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx>
>> Cc: 'Ontology Summit 2012 discussion' <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 4:36 pm
>> Subject: RE: [ontology-summit] Summit Website
>> 
>> Peter, I just spoke with Jerry Smith in a DoD meeting we were both in and
>> 
>> told him that I am informed that because this was a government-sponsored and
>> 
>> -hosted event your content claims do not have merit and interfere with my
>> 
>> work, so I would ask for an apology. Best regards, Brand
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter
>> 
>> Yim
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:09 PM
>> 
>> To: Brand Niemann
>> 
>> Cc: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brand,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Leo Obrst, our Ontology Summit general chair has already notified you, on
>> 
>> 15-Apr-2012, ref.
>> 
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2012-04/msg00081.html
>> 
>> that,
>> 
>> //
>> 
>> Until you have made proper attribution to our work, and clearly state on
>> 
>> your website that your work is also openly shared under OPL v1.0 or (cc
>> 
>> by-sa 3.0), please remove our Summit content from your website.
>> 
>> //
>> 
>> [ while the summit content on the OntologWiki is licensed under OPL
>> 
>> v1.0 or (cc by-sa 3.0), work from the OntologySummit2012 website is
>> 
>> specifically license under (cc by-sa 3.0) ]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To date, you have not been responsive to that request yet, nor have you
>> 
>> taken down the content from your MindTouch : Semanticommunity.info
>> 
>> : AOL Government site.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I can still see our OntologySummit2012 website content, copied word-for-word
>> 
>> on your site, but have yet to see proper attribution, and the site license
>> 
>> from MindTouch, and/or Semanticommunity.info and/or AOL Government stating
>> 
>> that they operates under the (cc by-sa
>> 
>> 3.0) open content license.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I personally think that this is very unprofessional of you to use our
>> 
>> material and disregard our IPR. You went ahead and copied the
>> 
>> ontology-summit team's work-in-progress without their consent; and worse,
>> 
>> despite the author's specific request to you to hold off until we publish,
>> 
>> you went ahead and published that on your site even before our team has
>> 
>> released that work and publish it themselves. This is not the kind of
>> 
>> behavior we expect from "trusted members" of the community at all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> PLEASE STOP YOUR INFRINGEMENT.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> 
>> Peter Yim
>> 
>> --
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you. I looked at your work and think it is similar to what I am
>> 
>>> trying to do:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Ontology_Summit_2012_Commu
>> 
>>> nique#Ontology
> 
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