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Re: [ontology-summit] Summit Website

To: Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx>
Cc: "jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx" <jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx>, Ontology Summit 2012 discussion <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 06:28:51 -0700
Message-id: <CAGdcwD3x13N9igw6v3tjTMxF-s0fzY7AoqFXd5acHpey9At24g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To comply with our (cc by-sa 3.0) license, Brand Niemann will need to
do "Attribution and Share-Alike" - for details, please refer to
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/    (01)

=ppy
--    (02)


On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:10 AM, My Coyne <mcoyne@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I second Debmacp: "Either post the attribution or remove the content."
>
> My Coyne
> mcoyne@xxxxxxxxxx
> (cel): 301-399-6351    (03)


> On Sat 21/04/12  9:05 AM , Debmacp debmacp@xxxxxxxxx sent:
>> Brand if your objective is to prove you are a brat you have succeeded.
>> Either post the attribution or remove the content.
>> Sent from my iPhone    (04)


>> On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@
>> cim3.com> wrote:
>> > Brand,
>> >
>> > As I mentioned in my last response, whatever you
>> say to Jerry is> irrelevant to the case at hand. Please take that
>> off this mailing> list.
>> >
>> > Brand Niemann, would you stop creating
>> distractions and do what you> need to do, and let me repeat that again:  STOP
>> YOUR INFRINGEMENT OF> OUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTIES RIGHTS !
>> >
>> > =ppy
>> > --    (05)


>> > On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Brand Niemann
>> <bniemann@cox
>> .net> wrote:>> Jerry, Since you and Peter want to persist
>> in this, I say: Stop it and>> Apologize.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I also say: Write down what you heard me say
>> in that DoD meeting (where I>> was ask to present) what you heard me say
>> before, during, and after the>> meeting, and we can ask the four other
>> people in attendance what they heard.>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The purpose of the email was to say there
>> were witnesses to what I said in>> response to you and they were satisfied 
>with
>> my answers.>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best regards, Brand    (06)


>> >> From: jerrylsmit@xxxxxxx [jerrylsmit
>> @aol.com]>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 9:41
>> PM>> To: bniemann@cox
>> .net; peter.yim@
>> cim3.com>> Cc: ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit
>> Website>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Brand,
>> >>
>> >> I don't recall any such words at
>> all.>>
>> >> Kindly explain what you are trying to do
>> with an email such as this.>>
>> >> Your statement is untrue.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone    (07)


>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox
>> .net>>> To: 'Peter Yim' <peter.yim@
>> cim3.com>; jerrylsmit <jerrylsmit
>> @aol.com>>> Cc: 'Ontology Summit 2012 discussion' 
><ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 4:36 pm
>> >> Subject: RE: [ontology-summit] Summit
>> Website>>
>> >> Peter, I just spoke with Jerry Smith in a
>> DoD meeting we were both in and>>
>> >> told him that I am informed that because
>> this was a government-sponsored and>>
>> >> -hosted event your content claims do not
>> have merit and interfere with my>>
>> >> work, so I would ask for an apology. Best
>> regards, Brand>    (08)


>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>
>> >> From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [peter.yim
>> @gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter>>
>> >> Yim
>> >>
>> >> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:09
>> PM>>
>> >> To: Brand Niemann
>> >>
>> >> Cc: Ontology Summit 2012
>> discussion>>
>> >> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Summit
>> Website>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Brand,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Leo Obrst, our Ontology Summit general chair
>> has already notified you, on>>
>> >> 15-Apr-2012, ref.
>> >>
>> >> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2012-04/msg00081.
>> html>>
>> >> that,
>> >>
>> >> //
>> >>
>> >> Until you have made proper attribution to
>> our work, and clearly state on>>
>> >> your website that your work is also openly
>> shared under OPL v1.0 or (cc>>
>> >> by-sa 3.0), please remove our Summit content
>> from your website.>>
>> >> //
>> >>
>> >> [ while the summit content on the
>> OntologWiki is licensed under OPL>>
>> >> v1.0 or (cc by-sa 3.0), work from the
>> OntologySummit2012 website is>>
>> >> specifically license under (cc by-sa 3.0)
>> ]>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> To date, you have not been responsive to
>> that request yet, nor have you>>
>> >> taken down the content from your MindTouch :
>> Semanticommunity.info>>
>> >> : AOL Government site.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I can still see our OntologySummit2012
>> website content, copied word-for-word>>
>> >> on your site, but have yet to see proper
>> attribution, and the site license>>
>> >> from MindTouch, and/or Semanticommunity.info
>> and/or AOL Government stating>>
>> >> that they operates under the (cc
>> by-sa>>
>> >> 3.0) open content license.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I personally think that this is very
>> unprofessional of you to use our>>
>> >> material and disregard our IPR. You went
>> ahead and copied the>>
>> >> ontology-summit team's work-in-progress
>> without their consent; and worse,>>
>> >> despite the author's specific request to you
>> to hold off until we publish,>>
>> >> you went ahead and published that on your
>> site even before our team has>>
>> >> released that work and publish it
>> themselves. This is not the kind of>>
>> >> behavior we expect from "trusted
>> members" of the community at all.>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> PLEASE STOP YOUR INFRINGEMENT.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> >>
>> >> Peter Yim
>> >>
>> >> --    (09)


>> >> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brand
>> Niemann <bniemann@cox
>> .net> wrote:>>
>> >>> Thank you. I looked at your work and
>> think it is similar to what I am>>
>> >>> trying to do:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>> http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Ontology_Summit_201
>> 2_Commu>>
>> >>> nique#Ontology    (010)

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