I am not sure if that is what Ron is implying ... (01)
As far as I can tell, Brand Niemann's
"MindTouch:SemanticCommunity.info/AOL_Government/Ontology_Summit_2012_Communique"
website is *not* a US government website. (02)
Brand, or anyone from the US government, please correct me if I am wrong. (03)
=ppy
-- (04)
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Arun Majumdar <arun@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I second Ron's email.
>
> -Arun Majumdar,
> CEO, VivoMind Research LLC (05)
> On Apr 21, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>
>> There is attribution on the site.
>> Is there a better wording that would satisfy most contributors?
>>
>> The share-alike provision may be more difficult to deal with.
>>
>> It appears that appearance on the US government site puts material into the
>public domain in a license that is more generous than (cc by-sa 3.0).
>> It appears that this is the reason that the US government wants a written
>release from the owner.
>> The government does not want to have to deal with various rights regimes and
>their approach is to deal with it at the source.
>>
>> Who can give this release?
>> Would that person give the US government the right to publish material from
>the forum?
>>
>> Once it is on the US site, the IP is really in the public domain.
>> Would all of the contributors have to agree to the change of IP rights?
>> The contributors have only agreed to a (cc by-sa 3.0) distribution at this
>point.
>>
>> It looks like Brand should take this material down until this written
>permission is obtained.
>>
>> If permission can not be given and the material is not removed within a few
>days, I would think that a written request should be sent to the government
>agency sponsoring the web site, outlining the fact that permission was not
>given to have the content posted.
>>
>> I am not a lawyer. This is just my take on the factual issues at stake.
>>
>> Lets keep the forum discussion at a factual level without personal
>characterizations or nastiness.
>>
>>
>> Ron (06)
>> On 21/04/2012 9:28 AM, Peter Yim wrote:
>>> To comply with our (cc by-sa 3.0) license, Brand Niemann will need to
>>> do "Attribution and Share-Alike" - for details, please refer to
>>> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
>>>
>>> =ppy
>>> -- (07)
>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:10 AM, My Coyne<mcoyne@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> I second Debmacp: "Either post the attribution or remove the content."
>>>>
>>>> My Coyne
>>>> mcoyne@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> (cel): 301-399-6351 (08)
>>>> On Sat 21/04/12 9:05 AM , Debmacp debmacp@xxxxxxxxx sent:
>>>>> Brand if your objective is to prove you are a brat you have succeeded.
>>>>> Either post the attribution or remove the content.
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone (09)
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Peter Yim<peter.yim@
>>>>> cim3.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Brand,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I mentioned in my last response, whatever you
>>>>> say to Jerry is> irrelevant to the case at hand. Please take that
>>>>> off this mailing> list.
>>>>>> Brand Niemann, would you stop creating
>>>>> distractions and do what you> need to do, and let me repeat that again:
> STOP
>>>>> YOUR INFRINGEMENT OF> OUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTIES RIGHTS !
>>>>>> =ppy
>>>>>> -- (010)
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Brand Niemann
>>>>> <bniemann@cox
>>>>> .net> wrote:>> Jerry, Since you and Peter want to persist
>>>>> in this, I say: Stop it and>> Apologize.
>>>>> ...[snip]... (011)
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