If I was mislead by previous traffic about government regulation
regarding IP, to thinking that it is a government site and if it is not,
I apologize. (01)
This actually makes the problem simpler. (02)
Does anyone have an acceptable wording for a statement of attribution? (03)
It would seem that the share-alike provision can also be fixed by adding
a statement that regardless of the rights on the rest of the site, the
content in question is available under (cc by-sa 3.0). (04)
Does anyone have a wording that would be appropriate. (05)
Does anyone have any other factual issues that need to be addressed? (06)
I think that the timing of publication should be dealt with off-line
since that is not fixable by any current repair. (07)
Ron (08)
On 21/04/2012 11:20 AM, Peter Yim wrote:
> I am not sure if that is what Ron is implying ...
>
> As far as I can tell, Brand Niemann's
>
>"MindTouch:SemanticCommunity.info/AOL_Government/Ontology_Summit_2012_Communique"
> website is *not* a US government website.
>
> Brand, or anyone from the US government, please correct me if I am wrong.
>
> =ppy
> --
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Arun Majumdar<arun@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I second Ron's email.
>>
>> -Arun Majumdar,
>> CEO, VivoMind Research LLC
>
>> On Apr 21, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>>
>>> There is attribution on the site.
>>> Is there a better wording that would satisfy most contributors?
>>>
>>> The share-alike provision may be more difficult to deal with.
>>>
>>> It appears that appearance on the US government site puts material into
>the public domain in a license that is more generous than (cc by-sa 3.0).
>>> It appears that this is the reason that the US government wants a written
>release from the owner.
>>> The government does not want to have to deal with various rights regimes
>and their approach is to deal with it at the source.
>>>
>>> Who can give this release?
>>> Would that person give the US government the right to publish material from
>the forum?
>>>
>>> Once it is on the US site, the IP is really in the public domain.
>>> Would all of the contributors have to agree to the change of IP rights?
>>> The contributors have only agreed to a (cc by-sa 3.0) distribution at this
>point.
>>>
>>> It looks like Brand should take this material down until this written
>permission is obtained.
>>>
>>> If permission can not be given and the material is not removed within a few
>days, I would think that a written request should be sent to the government
>agency sponsoring the web site, outlining the fact that permission was not
>given to have the content posted.
>>>
>>> I am not a lawyer. This is just my take on the factual issues at stake.
>>>
>>> Lets keep the forum discussion at a factual level without personal
>characterizations or nastiness.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron
>
>>> On 21/04/2012 9:28 AM, Peter Yim wrote:
>>>> To comply with our (cc by-sa 3.0) license, Brand Niemann will need to
>>>> do "Attribution and Share-Alike" - for details, please refer to
>>>> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
>>>>
>>>> =ppy
>>>> --
>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:10 AM, My Coyne<mcoyne@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> I second Debmacp: "Either post the attribution or remove the content."
>>>>>
>>>>> My Coyne
>>>>> mcoyne@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> (cel): 301-399-6351
>
>>>>> On Sat 21/04/12 9:05 AM , Debmacp debmacp@xxxxxxxxx sent:
>>>>>> Brand if your objective is to prove you are a brat you have succeeded.
>>>>>> Either post the attribution or remove the content.
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Peter Yim<peter.yim@
>>>>>> cim3.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Brand,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I mentioned in my last response, whatever you
>>>>>> say to Jerry is> irrelevant to the case at hand. Please take that
>>>>>> off this mailing> list.
>>>>>>> Brand Niemann, would you stop creating
>>>>>> distractions and do what you> need to do, and let me repeat that
>again: STOP
>>>>>> YOUR INFRINGEMENT OF> OUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTIES RIGHTS !
>>>>>>> =ppy
>>>>>>> --
>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Brand Niemann
>>>>>> <bniemann@cox
>>>>>> .net> wrote:>> Jerry, Since you and Peter want to persist
>>>>>> in this, I say: Stop it and>> Apologize.
>>>>>> ...[snip]... (09)
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