>Bill
>I appreciate your concern, and look forward to the debate.
>
>It looks to me that with the summit we have
>agreed with some conclusions, and made some
>decisions at least some people have and others
>have not disagreed.
>
> What I need (NOW) is to know what people mean
>with the words they use. I would like to have
>this collected on a page that can be used as a
>working reference by more than one person.
>
>(I wrote to the applied ontology editor at cyc,
>he writes a 4 pages article on 'applied
>ontology' without producing a working definition
>that I can quote in one sentence, unless I am
>missing something - waiting for reply) (01)
There may be a very good reason for that. Many
notions simply do not have useful one-sentence
definitions, but require a grasp of a good deal
of background technical knowledge. (02)
>This would not mean that anyone of us would
>dictate to others how to use their words, rather
>share with others what they mean, for the
>purpose of common understanding, and where
>possible, consensus building.
>
>Am I right that communication will be otherwise impossible in the long term? (03)
No. Communication rarely depends on glossaries:
it depends on shared knowledge. In my experience,
attempting to achieve shared knowledge by
constructing glossaries is doomed to be a
time-wasting exercise. Most of the ISO glossaries
are worse than useless, and when applied outside
the scope of the subfield that composed them are
actively harmful to communication. (04)
>would I be right in thinking that a controlled
>vocabulary is what we need to aim for (05)
Absolutely NOT. Why would we need a controlled
vocabulary? Most active fields of research and
development do not have controlled vocabularies.
Who does the controlling, in any case? (06)
>and in fact, possibly an encyclopedia of some sort?
>
>Of course I can start compile one on my own
>website, and invite anyone who wants to
>contribute to take a stab, but I think it would
>be preferable to have
>this as a community building exercise. (07)
I disagree. If we have nothing better to do than this, lets just disband. (08)
Pat Hayes (09)
>
>Lets think of it, what would be best and most useful
>
>Cheers
>
>P
>
>On 6/18/07, Bill Andersen
><<mailto:andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>
>Folks,
>
>Didn't we just all go through a grueling 4-month
>exercise wherein it was explicitly decided that
>nobody was going to try to decide what the term
>"ontology" meant. Is there reason to believe
>this exercise, insofar as it departs from
>including terms from such well-charted territory
>as logic, will be any more successful?
>
> .bill
>
>
>On Jun 18, 2007, at 06:37 ,
><mailto:dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>>Paola,
>>
>>I think starting a glossary of ontology
>>terminology is an excellent idea. I think,
>>though, that there should be an editorial and
>>peer review process in place to manage the
>>quality of content and to facilitate resolution
>>of variations. And, that these processes
>>should reflect the views and experiences of the
>>larger community.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Denise
>>
>
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>Peoples,
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>I am looking for a credible glossary of
>ontological terms, and I dont find anything
>easily accessible, comprehensive and uptodate
>that I can trust
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