Dear Matthew,
So you are saying that the identity of sand depends on
your perspective, on the problem you are solving, or on the goals you
set. One grain of sand *could* have its own identity, but only if
you are interested in tracking all the grains of sand in your context.
Yet I can identify sand in 20 pound bags with one
identifier - the one on the sand bag.
Did I get your meaning right, Matthew, i.e., it all
depends on your own personal perspective, which states how you view the
sand.
Thanks!
Sincerely,
Rich
Cooper,
Rich Cooper,
Chief Technology Officer,
MetaSemantics Corporation
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Dear Rich,
Each grain of sand exists in the real world and has
identity, whether or not you are interested in them. That is something entirely
different. A handful of sand is also something that exists in the real world
(the aggregate of the grains of sand whilst they are in your hand) and whether
you care about that is also a different question.
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Are you saying that identity must *always* be
*unique*? I can identify a handful of sand at the beach without assigning
an identity to each grain.
All grains look the same to me, therefore all sand has
the same identity, so I treat it as a unitless object, and the best I can do to
subdivide it is to organize it into specific volumes, weights and prices.
Sincerely,
Rich Cooper,
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On 6/17/2015 1:12 AM, Rich Cooper wrote:
> you could say that the ID is the concatenated value
of all
properties
I was trying to explain that similarity is observable,
but identity is always an inference.
It's irrelevant how you represent the properties or what
conventions you adopt for storing information about them.
You still have to observe the patterns before you can
*infer* whether or not they determine a unique item.
John
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