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Re: [ontolog-forum] knowledge base and DBs

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 21:43:44 -0600
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Another take on the distinction between data and knowledge tailored for 
engineers.    (01)

Data
    Bit arrays, streams that come from sensors and is contained in data 
repositories
Information
    Data + the who, what, where of the data (metadata)
Knowledge
    Information processed by a scheme for classifying and interpreting  the 
information (an ontology)    (02)

-----Original Message----- 
From: Matthew West
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] knowledge base and DBs    (03)

Dear Kingsley,    (04)

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[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen
Sent: 06 January 2015 20:00
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] knowledge base and DBs    (05)

On 1/6/15 2:00 PM, Matthew West wrote:
> Dear David and Alexander,
> Hmmm. Well to my mind the biggest difference is not to do with
> operations and logic, SQL is very competent. The key difference is
> that a database has a structure that is defined at database definition
> time, and data that is added at runtime. On the other hand, a
> knowledge base has minimal structure, and is defined by the type of
> knowledge base used. None of this has much to do with what you can do
> with the different approaches, and a lot of things you can do with
> either. A database is likely to be more efficient when there are a lot
> of records with the same structure to be stored and referred to. A
> knowledgebase is likely to be more efficient when flexibility in structure
is what is required.
>
> Regards
>
> Matthew West
> Information  Junction
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> SG6 2SU.    (06)

Matthew,    (07)

How about the following, which distinguishes:    (08)

1. Application that provides management services 2. Document comprised of
content (data).
MW: Well I would not call a database a document. It is the database that
contains the content, and the DBMS which provides access and management
services to the data in the database.    (09)

Thus, we end up with A DBMS (Database Management System) being an
application that provides Data Management (import, indexing, querying,
export etc..) services (driven by its supported model) scoped to
Document(s) [which may be internal or external] comprised of structured data
-- represented using a variety of notations.
[MW>] Well yes, but I still don't like calling a database a document. A
document suggests a lack of structure, as in a text tract, whereas a
database is highly structured.    (010)

Which also implies that a Knowledge Management system  just another kind
application with additional capabilities e.g., reasoning and inference.
[MW>] A DBMS has those capabilities as well, certainly a SQL one.    (011)

In both cases, if relational in orientation, these applications group tuples
as Relational Tables and/or Relational Predicate/Property Graphs.
[MW>] Well strictly relational tables are a different view of data from a
graph view, though they are isomorphic. Of course you can trivially create a
triple store using a relational database. Some of the differences in
performance can arise from whether the underlying structure is graphical or
relational.    (012)

Regards    (013)

Matthew West
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This email originates from Information Junction Ltd. Registered in England
and Wales No. 6632177.
Registered office: 8 Ennismore Close, Letchworth Garden City, Hertfordshire,
SG6 2SU.    (014)


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Regards,    (015)

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