On 7/10/12 6:27 PM, Obrst, Leo J. wrote:
> Kingsley,
>
> I have a question about one of your comments: see below.
>
> Thanks,
> Leo
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> ...
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> You are moving all over the place with me here. Have I implied that
> Triple patterns are the only vehicle for Hyperdata? And FWIW you can use
> reification syntax to keep statements about anything down to triples,
> the ultimate problem is the current reification vocabulary doesn't work
> on the engineering side of things, so alternatives are needed if we
> don't want to increase computing costs across the board. There's work
> taking place that will soon be published with engineered examples in the
> not too distant future.
> [Leo: ] What is this work? Can you point me to it? Reification has always
>been an issue because there's limited semantics for it, unless you provide an
>ontology for reifying, I guess. Statements require some propositional attitude
>semantics, no? The syntactic graph structure is there, for reification, but
>that's it, right? This is my understanding. (01)
Leo, (02)
Work relates to the light comments posted here:
http://www.openlinksw.com/dataspace/oerling/weblog/Orri%20Erling%27s%20Blog/1705 (03)
. (04)
A full proposal and 2 independent reference implementations are in the
works from OpenLink Software and SYSTAP. (05)
I'll pick up he rest with you offline, for now. (06)
Kingsley (07)
>
> I refer to: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-mt/#Reif:
>
> "A reification of a triple does not entail the triple, and is not entailed by
>it. (The reification only says that the triple token exists and what it is
>about, not that it is true. ..."
>
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