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Re: [ontolog-forum] semantics of the mKR language

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From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:01:06 -0700
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I only have one minor criticism    (01)

³The movie 2001, which appeared in 1968,
featured the HAL 9000, an intelligent computer...<SNIP/>²    (02)

I think the movie was called ³2001: A Space Odyssey² - one of my favorite
ever.    (03)

Brilliant paper John.    (04)

D    (05)


On 3/25/09 11:44 PM, "FERENC KOVACS" <f.kovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:    (06)

> John
> I have read your http://www.jfsowa.com/pubs/pursuing.pdf paper with
> interest.
> Questions:
> 1. Where is (/was/going to be) it published.
> 2. Would they/you accept a piece of criticism of your paper?
> 
> Thanks
> Frank
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-
>> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F. Sowa
>> Sent: 26 March 2009 05:54
>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] semantics of the mKR language
>> 
>> Dick,
>> 
>> What you have been doing is not even up to the level that the
>> linguists, logicians, philosophers, and computer scientists
>> were developing and implementing in the 1970s and early '80s.
>> See, for example, the work on Montague grammar, situation
>> semantics, discourse representation structures, and related
>> topics.  All of them went far beyond what you've been trying
>> to do with your context fields -- and they did it 20 or 30
>> years ago.
>> 
>> RHM>  I don't believe John or Pat have come to grips with the
>>> meaning of symbols in any natural language, e.g., English.
>> 
>> I can assure you that Pat has been working and collaborating
>> with people in those fields for a long time.  If you want to
>> bring your work up to the level of the 1980s, I recommend my
>> 1984 book, _Conceptual Structures_, which discusses and refers
>> to those areas. You can find most of that material in my
>> on-line bibliography:
>> 
>>     http://www.jfsowa.com/bib.htm
>> 
>> If you want to come up to the 1990s level, you can read my
>> book _Knowledge Representation_ and many other recent
>> publications that are also in that bibliography.  I also
>> refer to a great deal of the historical and recent work
>> in the paper _Pursuing the Goal of Language Understanding_:
>> 
>>     http://www.jfsowa.com/pubs/pursuing.pdf
>> 
>> RHM> I have not tried to do more complex reasoning.  I have
>>> devoted my efforts to exploring different applications to see
>>> if mKR could adequately describe those applications.
>> 
>> Many the people we have been citing have developed systems
>> and notations that describe those areas and reason about them.
>> As I said before, you should *study* their work before
>> reinventing a flat wheel.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
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