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From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:19:27 -0800
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There are those who think so however I believe that the current WS=* stack
has surpassed ebXML in terms of functionality and readiness.  The WS world
basically absorbed the ebXML functionality so it is not dead, it just lives
on in that form.    (01)

Having another stack is probably a waste of effort if one works now.    (02)

Duane    (03)


On 1/15/08 6:14 AM, "paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx" <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:    (04)

> Duane
> 
> is there still a need?
> can the shortcomings be pinponted? is it worth/can it be/ rescoped and fixed?
> 
> 
> pdm
> 
> On 1/15/08, Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Ed:
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/14/08 1:24 PM, "Ed Barkmeyer" <edbark@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> That too is factual.
>>> 
>>> My issue was with the lead in:
>>>> One of the primary reasons ebXML failed was because ...
>>> 
>>> That is not fact.  That is your expert opinion.
>>> 
>>> My opinion, which is based on dealing with the manufacturing business
>>> people who are actively operating e-business activities, is that ebXML
>>> failed primarily because it did not address the e-business *business*
>>> problem.
>> 
>> This is the same as what I said (sort of). When I said it did not work, it
>> was largely because the architecture was designed to address this however
>> the specs did not deliver the functionality that would have.
>> 
>> Some parts worked without the whole (Registry, Core Components, CPA/CPP and
>> messaging) but the whole failed.
>> 
>> When I say it "failed", there are clearly documented design objectives and
>> requirements.  Failed is a state.  "Failed" means it did not do, as whole,
>> what is was designed to do.
>> 
>> Duane
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