Paola, (01)
There are some ongoing efforts ... but as always, more can be done,
and they can always be better. (02)
... are you familiar of this file? -
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/resource/podcast/ontolog-podcast.xml
(ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidJKI ) (03)
... our audio archives is also tagged with both ID3v1 and ID3v2 file
information.
Questions:
Are you making use of either of these?
Is anyone making use of either of these?
... to get user perspectives, we need users in the first place. (04)
As you are aware, to systematically improve on this is part of the
goals of the "Ontologizing Ontolog" [1] initiative in general, and
that of the TaxoThesaurus [2] project in particular. (05)
Again, things only happen when someone in the community volunteers
their time and effort and work on them. The content is out there and
openly accessible ... if there is something you want to see, and it
isn't there yet, please, PLEASE go ahead and just do it, for the sake
of the entire community. (06)
Regards. =ppy (07)
Ref.
[1] http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologizingOntolog (08)
[2] http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologTaxoThesaurus (09)
-- (010)
On 9/4/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter
>
> > [ppy] I believe we are doing fine with the informal/organic process
> > we have now.
>
> We are doing great. there s a lot of interesting stoffe there
>
> but
>
> I am trying to map the content of the presenttions/dpeakers sessions
> onto our new framework. I cannot easily position them, and cannot
> identify some of the perspectives (user perspective seems to be
> missing/ from our presentations?)
>
> I think it would be useful to map the presentations onto the
> framework, there is a lot there
> but its scattered and unstructured. Btw - are we 'tagging' our
> content/entires in the wiki?
>
> do we hae a list of 'tags' available that we can use to reference the
> materials, and
> does this tag structure reflect the framework?
>
> just doing a bit of diligence on our presentation library..
>
> PDM
>
> I don't think anyone has been denied the opportunity to
> > bring up new ideas so far (although not all ideas get the same level
> > of community support) because we lack such a guideline.
> >
> > > [PDM] A suggestion could be that anyone organizing a talk, would
> > > make an open invitation
> > > to others who may want to present around the same topic, as to create
> > > 'topic clusters'
> > > and get different perspectives on the same topic ( eating our own
>framework)
> > > This could be mentioned in the guidelines
> >
> > [ppy] I believe our event champions are already doing it. ... Try
> > recalling what happened with, say, OntologySummit2007, the "Database &
> > Ontology" mini-series, Duane & Kurt's "Ontology Implementation &
> > Applications" panel discussions, and so on.
> >
> > To get invited, the hope is, one has to be *really* good, and has
> > something to offer that adds to our collective body of knowledge. As
> > for "what is *reallyt good*" ... we'll have to entrust that to our
> > project champions and his/her organizing/program team.
> >
> > > [PDM] Great that vendors are not encouraged, but somehow 'selling'
>manages to
> > > slip in
> > >
> > > great work!
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Paola DM
> >
> > [ppy] According to my Mirriam-Webster Dictionary:
> >
> > vendor - n. one that vends: seller
> > vend - vb. sell; esp : to sell as a hawker or peddler
> >
> > [Maybe, I should have qualified the "selling" in my earlier message and
>said:
> >
> > " .... Selling of commercial products" is probably better done
> > elsewhere, than over the settings of a purely volunteered (and
> > community donated) effort that we operate on here."
> >
> > Cheers. =ppy
> > --
> >
> >
> > > On 9/5/07, Peter P. Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:14:31 +0700:
> > > > > ...[snip]...
> > > > >
> > > > > [PDM] do we have a formal way to suggesting/voting for sessions? how
> > > > > are these sessions chosen?how do we know how many people are
> > > > > interested in a topic? could we have a 'call for sessions' where
>people
> > > > > can submit their talks and then maybe have more than one speaker
> > > > > present around the same topic, to have a plurality of views and enrich
> > > > > the discourse?
> > > >
> > > > For those who are new to the community, our regular weekly
> > > > conference calls are on Thursdays starting 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm
> > > > EDT / 6:30pm BST / 7:30pm CEST / 17:30 GMT/UTC (adjusted back to
> > > > PST & EST when the US gets off daylight saving time.)
> > > >
> > > > When we don't have a scheduled events (like an invited talk or
> > > > panel discussion), we will, by default, use that slot for (what
> > > > we call) our "regular operations planning and review meeting"
> > > > where active members of the community get together and review our
> > > > activities and well being, suggest new ideas, corrective actions,
> > > > etc. etc. These calls are only announced on the wiki (under "News
> > > > and Announcements" (in order not to create additional mail
> > > > traffic), but everyone who cares is welcomed to join in. One can
> > > > also send in his/her idea(s) for discussion, through the
> > > > mailing list or the wiki session page, in absentia.
> > > >
> > > > Practically all Ontolog initiatives are community driven. The
> > > > best way to make something happen is to (i) announce the idea,
> > > > (ii) get enough people to support and idea (and be willing to
> > > > work on it), (iii) create a project/initiative, form a team,
> > > > appoint a champion and (iv) then go do it. The champion of an
> > > > initiative is generally trusted with making the calls and seeing
> > > > to it that we have a top quality program.
> > > >
> > > > In the past, new initiatives, projects, programs, etc. generally
> > > > come out of these discussions, or from ideas informally brought
> > > > up in the discussion list. And, without exception, champions of
> > > > all past initiatives have made open calls to the entire community
> > > > for participation (as team members, as presenters, etc.)
> > > >
> > > > That's the informal way things get done around here. The formal
> > > > way is documented under:
> > > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1Y ...
> > > > both should work, but of course, the formal way is normative.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > [PDM] I wonder For example, if vendor a can come up and
> > > > > sell their stoffe, it would be only fair if vendor b
> > > > > could do the same... and to balance the vendor perspective,
> > > > > we could have users, observers, researchers, all providing
> > > > > their perspective (which now they can do in form of questions
> > > > > and answers, but it does not get captured as being part of
> > > > > the topic, merely follow up) just ideas .. cheers, PDM
> > > >
> > > > By default we intend to keep our distance from commercial
> > > > vending, as discussed earlier - see:
> > > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-09/msg00031.html#nid02
> > > >
> > > > ... commercial products and vending have slightly different
> > > > objectives from what we are chartered to do. "Selling" is
> > > > probably better done elsewhere, than over the settings of a
> > > > purely volunteered (and community donated) effort that we operate
> > > > on here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards. =ppy
> > > >
> > > > Peter Yim
> > > > Co-convener, Ontolog
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