Peter (01)
> [ppy] I believe we are doing fine with the informal/organic process
> we have now. (02)
We are doing great. there s a lot of interesting stoffe there (03)
but (04)
I am trying to map the content of the presenttions/dpeakers sessions
onto our new framework. I cannot easily position them, and cannot
identify some of the perspectives (user perspective seems to be
missing/ from our presentations?) (05)
I think it would be useful to map the presentations onto the
framework, there is a lot there
but its scattered and unstructured. Btw - are we 'tagging' our
content/entires in the wiki? (06)
do we hae a list of 'tags' available that we can use to reference the
materials, and
does this tag structure reflect the framework? (07)
just doing a bit of diligence on our presentation library.. (08)
PDM (09)
I don't think anyone has been denied the opportunity to
> bring up new ideas so far (although not all ideas get the same level
> of community support) because we lack such a guideline.
>
> > [PDM] A suggestion could be that anyone organizing a talk, would
> > make an open invitation
> > to others who may want to present around the same topic, as to create
> > 'topic clusters'
> > and get different perspectives on the same topic ( eating our own framework)
> > This could be mentioned in the guidelines
>
> [ppy] I believe our event champions are already doing it. ... Try
> recalling what happened with, say, OntologySummit2007, the "Database &
> Ontology" mini-series, Duane & Kurt's "Ontology Implementation &
> Applications" panel discussions, and so on.
>
> To get invited, the hope is, one has to be *really* good, and has
> something to offer that adds to our collective body of knowledge. As
> for "what is *reallyt good*" ... we'll have to entrust that to our
> project champions and his/her organizing/program team.
>
> > [PDM] Great that vendors are not encouraged, but somehow 'selling' manages
>to
> > slip in
> >
> > great work!
> > cheers
> >
> > Paola DM
>
> [ppy] According to my Mirriam-Webster Dictionary:
>
> vendor - n. one that vends: seller
> vend - vb. sell; esp : to sell as a hawker or peddler
>
> [Maybe, I should have qualified the "selling" in my earlier message and said:
>
> " .... Selling of commercial products" is probably better done
> elsewhere, than over the settings of a purely volunteered (and
> community donated) effort that we operate on here."
>
> Cheers. =ppy
> --
>
>
> > On 9/5/07, Peter P. Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:14:31 +0700:
> > > > ...[snip]...
> > > >
> > > > [PDM] do we have a formal way to suggesting/voting for sessions? how
> > > > are these sessions chosen?how do we know how many people are
> > > > interested in a topic? could we have a 'call for sessions' where people
> > > > can submit their talks and then maybe have more than one speaker
> > > > present around the same topic, to have a plurality of views and enrich
> > > > the discourse?
> > >
> > > For those who are new to the community, our regular weekly
> > > conference calls are on Thursdays starting 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm
> > > EDT / 6:30pm BST / 7:30pm CEST / 17:30 GMT/UTC (adjusted back to
> > > PST & EST when the US gets off daylight saving time.)
> > >
> > > When we don't have a scheduled events (like an invited talk or
> > > panel discussion), we will, by default, use that slot for (what
> > > we call) our "regular operations planning and review meeting"
> > > where active members of the community get together and review our
> > > activities and well being, suggest new ideas, corrective actions,
> > > etc. etc. These calls are only announced on the wiki (under "News
> > > and Announcements" (in order not to create additional mail
> > > traffic), but everyone who cares is welcomed to join in. One can
> > > also send in his/her idea(s) for discussion, through the
> > > mailing list or the wiki session page, in absentia.
> > >
> > > Practically all Ontolog initiatives are community driven. The
> > > best way to make something happen is to (i) announce the idea,
> > > (ii) get enough people to support and idea (and be willing to
> > > work on it), (iii) create a project/initiative, form a team,
> > > appoint a champion and (iv) then go do it. The champion of an
> > > initiative is generally trusted with making the calls and seeing
> > > to it that we have a top quality program.
> > >
> > > In the past, new initiatives, projects, programs, etc. generally
> > > come out of these discussions, or from ideas informally brought
> > > up in the discussion list. And, without exception, champions of
> > > all past initiatives have made open calls to the entire community
> > > for participation (as team members, as presenters, etc.)
> > >
> > > That's the informal way things get done around here. The formal
> > > way is documented under:
> > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1Y ...
> > > both should work, but of course, the formal way is normative.
> > >
> > >
> > > > [PDM] I wonder For example, if vendor a can come up and
> > > > sell their stoffe, it would be only fair if vendor b
> > > > could do the same... and to balance the vendor perspective,
> > > > we could have users, observers, researchers, all providing
> > > > their perspective (which now they can do in form of questions
> > > > and answers, but it does not get captured as being part of
> > > > the topic, merely follow up) just ideas .. cheers, PDM
> > >
> > > By default we intend to keep our distance from commercial
> > > vending, as discussed earlier - see:
> > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-09/msg00031.html#nid02
> > >
> > > ... commercial products and vending have slightly different
> > > objectives from what we are chartered to do. "Selling" is
> > > probably better done elsewhere, than over the settings of a
> > > purely volunteered (and community donated) effort that we operate
> > > on here.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards. =ppy
> > >
> > > Peter Yim
> > > Co-convener, Ontolog
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