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Re: [ontolog-forum] Event Planning [was - Re: electric sheep]

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From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:59:37 -0700
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> ...  3-4 vendors ...    (01)

[ppy]  how about reading that as 3-4 speakers (and since we will be
waiving the no-vendor constraint in this event), both open technology
implementations, as well as vendor/proprietary implementations are
welcome.    (02)

Regards.  =ppy
--    (03)


On 9/4/07, Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> As a straw poll, who would be interested in scheduling another date on
> implementation and invite speakers to submit ideas for a proposal?  The
> format usually involves 3-4 vendors, each talking for 10 minutes followed by
> 5 minutes Q&A then a 30 minute open Q&A.
>
> Duane
>
>
> On 9/4/07 7:55 PM, "paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx" <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi Peter
> > thanks a lot for your extensive reply
> >
> > What about adding a chapter/paragraph to the wiki with process guidelines
> > about
> > 'how to organize a talk', or 'how to be invited to give a talk'
> > so that people can put forward their ideas and suggestions for future
> > sessions?
> >
> > A suggestion could be that anyone organizing a talk, would make an
> > open invitationt
> > to others who may want to present around the same topic, as to create
> > 'topic clusters'
> > and get different perspectives on the same topic ( eating our own framework)
> > This could be mentioned in the guidelines
> >
> > Great that vendors are not encouraged, but somehow 'selling' manages to slip
> > in
> >
> > great work!
> > cheers
> >
> > Paola DM
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/5/07, Peter P. Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:14:31 +0700:
> >>> ...[snip]...
> >>>
> >>> [PDM]  do we have a formal way to suggesting/voting for sessions? how
> >>> are these sessions chosen?how do we know how many people are
> >>> interested in a topic? could we have a 'call for sessions' where people
> >>> can submit their talks and then maybe have more than one speaker
> >>> present around the same topic, to have a plurality of views and enrich
> >>> the discourse?
> >>
> >> For those who are new to the community, our regular weekly
> >> conference calls are on Thursdays starting 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm
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> >>
> >> When we don't have a scheduled events (like an invited talk or
> >> panel discussion), we will, by default, use that slot for (what
> >> we call) our "regular operations planning and review meeting"
> >> where active members of the community get together and review our
> >> activities and well being, suggest new ideas, corrective actions,
> >> etc. etc. These calls are only announced on the wiki (under "News
> >> and Announcements" (in order not to create additional mail
> >> traffic), but everyone who cares is welcomed to join in. One can
> >>   also send in his/her idea(s) for discussion, through the
> >> mailing list or the wiki session page, in absentia.
> >>
> >> Practically all Ontolog initiatives are community driven. The
> >> best way to make something happen is to (i) announce the idea,
> >> (ii) get enough people to support and idea (and be willing to
> >> work on it), (iii) create a project/initiative, form a team,
> >> appoint a champion and (iv) then go do it. The champion of an
> >> initiative is generally trusted with making the calls and seeing
> >> to it that we have a top quality program.
> >>
> >> In the past, new initiatives, projects, programs, etc. generally
> >> come out of these discussions, or from ideas informally brought
> >> up in the discussion list. And, without exception, champions of
> >> all past initiatives have made open calls to the entire community
> >> for participation (as team members, as presenters, etc.)
> >>
> >> That's the informal way things get done around here. The formal
> >> way is documented under:
> >> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1Y ...
> >> both should work, but of course, the formal way is normative.
> >>
> >>
> >>> [PDM]  I wonder For example, if vendor a can come up and
> >>> sell their stoffe, it would be only fair if vendor b
> >>> could do the same... and to balance the vendor perspective,
> >>> we could have users, observers, researchers, all providing
> >>> their perspective (which now they can do in form of questions
> >>> and answers, but it does not get captured as being part of
> >>> the topic, merely follow up) just ideas  .. cheers, PDM
> >>
> >> By default we intend to keep our distance from commercial
> >> vending, as discussed earlier - see:
> >> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-09/msg00031.html#nid02
> >>
> >> ... commercial products and vending have slightly different
> >> objectives from what we are chartered to do. "Selling" is
> >> probably better done elsewhere, than over the settings of a
> >> purely volunteered (and community donated) effort that we operate
> >> on here.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards.  =ppy
> >>
> >> Peter Yim
> >> Co-convener, Ontolog
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