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From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:36:04 -0700
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Yes – in the past we’ve reached out to speakers in advance and coached them.

Duane


On 9/4/07 10:23 AM, "Bill Andersen" <andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well...  I guess I was trying to say that implementation ≠ marketing.  There is, IMO, room in the general talk about practical experience, but in doing so, one should use commonly accepted language, not talking points from one's marketing materials.


On Sep 4, 2007, at 13:08 , Duane Nickull wrote:

We = ontolog forum.
 
 http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_11_30
 http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_12_15
 
 Marketing is strictly banned on the regular list. We have a separate list for implementations somewhere.
 
 D
 
 
 
 On 9/4/07 9:25 AM, "Bill Andersen" <andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 
 
Duane,
 
 What's the referent of 'we'?  Adobe or Ontolog?  
 
 IMO, sharing implementation experiences is not a problem, so long as marketing language is not tolerated, but rather an honest attempt made to report experience.
 
 On Sep 4, 2007, at 11:59 , Duane Nickull wrote:
 
 
With one minor exception:  We regularly run sessions on Ontology/Semantic
 applications where we do encourage vendors to share their implementation
 experiences.   These sessions have been very valuable in the past.  I would
 like to keep this on file as we are due for another one in the next 60 days
 or so if the community wishes.
 
 Duane
 
 
 On 9/3/07 11:50 PM, "rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 
  
 
+1 on "no advertising"
 
 Rick
 
 Quoting Bill Andersen <andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
 
  
 
Bully for Chris!
 
 Peter, I would respectfully ask that you take what steps you can to
 suppress "advertising" of this sort on ontolog.
 
 .bill
 
 On Sep 4, 2007, at 00:34 , Chris Menzel wrote:
 
  
 
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 11:03:57AM -0700, Dennis L. Thomas wrote:
  
 
...
 That 2nd generation software system had a database backend, which
 topped out at the complexity barrier.  Now, our 3rd generation
 semantic knowledgebase system, called Mark 3, is designed to be a
 self-building, self-organizing and self-transcending
  
 

 and perhaps "self-promoting"...?  :-)
 
  
 
system that scales to unlimited dimensions to simulate every form of
 human knowledge and to reason with that knowledge like people.
  
 

 The undecidability of first-order consequence notwithstanding.
 
  
 
...
 This is an enterprise tool, though we plan to offer a FREE limited
 trial copy the size of a large database for people to play with....
  
 

 No comment.
 
 -chris
  
 

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