Well... I guess I was trying to say that implementation ≠ marketing. There is, IMO, room in the general talk about practical experience, but in doing so, one should use commonly accepted language, not talking points from one's marketing materials.
On Sep 4, 2007, at 13:08 , Duane Nickull wrote: We = ontolog forum. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_11_30 http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_12_15 Marketing is strictly banned on the regular list. We have a separate list for implementations somewhere. D On 9/4/07 9:25 AM, "Bill Andersen" <andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Duane, What's the referent of 'we'? Adobe or Ontolog? IMO, sharing implementation experiences is not a problem, so long as marketing language is not tolerated, but rather an honest attempt made to report experience. On Sep 4, 2007, at 11:59 , Duane Nickull wrote: With one minor exception: We regularly run sessions on Ontology/Semantic applications where we do encourage vendors to share their implementation experiences. These sessions have been very valuable in the past. I would like to keep this on file as we are due for another one in the next 60 days or so if the community wishes. Duane On 9/3/07 11:50 PM, "rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: +1 on "no advertising" Rick Quoting Bill Andersen <andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: Bully for Chris! Peter, I would respectfully ask that you take what steps you can to suppress "advertising" of this sort on ontolog. .bill On Sep 4, 2007, at 00:34 , Chris Menzel wrote: On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 11:03:57AM -0700, Dennis L. Thomas wrote: ... That 2nd generation software system had a database backend, which topped out at the complexity barrier. Now, our 3rd generation semantic knowledgebase system, called Mark 3, is designed to be a self-building, self-organizing and self-transcending and perhaps "self-promoting"...? :-) system that scales to unlimited dimensions to simulate every form of human knowledge and to reason with that knowledge like people. The undecidability of first-order consequence notwithstanding. ... This is an enterprise tool, though we plan to offer a FREE limited trial copy the size of a large database for people to play with.... No comment. -chris Bill Andersen (andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Chief Scientist Ontology Works, Inc. (www.ontologyworks.com <http://www.ontologyworks.com> ) 3600 O'Donnell Street, Suite 600 Baltimore, MD 21224 Office: 410-675-1201 Cell: 443-858-6444 _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To Post: mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- ********************************************************************** "Speaking only for myself" Blog - http://technoracle.blogspot.com Community Music - http://www.mix2r.com My Band - http://www.myspace.com/22ndcentury MAX 2007 - http://technoracle.blogspot.com/2007/07/adobe-max-2007.html ********************************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To Post: mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Bill Andersen (andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Chief Scientist Ontology Works, Inc. (www.ontologyworks.com <http://www.ontologyworks.com> ) 3600 O'Donnell Street, Suite 600 Baltimore, MD 21224 Office: 410-675-1201 Cell: 443-858-6444 _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To Post: mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- ********************************************************************** "Speaking only for myself" Blog - http://technoracle.blogspot.com Community Music - http://www.mix2r.com My Band - http://www.myspace.com/22ndcentury MAX 2007 - http://technoracle.blogspot.com/2007/07/adobe-max-2007.html **********************************************************************
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