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Re: [ontolog-forum] Self Interest Ontology

To: "'[ontolog-forum] '" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <doug@xxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Rich Cooper" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:02:30 -0700
Message-id: <13006824805A421A95B398C7DC4ED7EE@Gateway>

John and Doug,

 

John wrote:

 

Just note that article I sent about the South Sea Bubble.  Shortly after they got their stamp of approval from the King, they lobbied to cripple the competition by forbidding any stock to be traded unless the corporation had a charter from the King.

 

That tactic – enlisting an established power of force to limit competition – seems to be repeated throughout history when any faction (corporate, NGO, political crusade, populist movement …) becomes strong enough to enlist the contemporary form of force (government, king, dictator, politician, …).  By eliminating competition, the ascendant group makes their position more secure. 

 

If this one tactic could be nullified, i.e. if ascendant groups could be prevented from complete dominance, then the remaining individuals could opt out of any proposed plan to deny them their equal justice. 

 

Does anyone have suggestions on how to nullify the ability of the top to compel the remainder into their plan?  That is what Friedman’s “Power to Choose” is actually about.  Forget the politics he espouses and just consider the opt-out tactic.  If that could be put into an amendment to the constitution, and enforced in nearly every case, it would put a stop to lots of this hijacking of public interest and public funds in the service of private interests. 

 

-Rich

 

Sincerely,

Rich Cooper

EnglishLogicKernel.com

Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com

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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:07 PM
To: doug@xxxxxxxxxx; [ontolog-forum]
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Self Interest Ontology

 

Doug,

> John emphasizes that lobbyists enhance the perceived self-interest of
> their corporations by writing (laws and) regulations to harm their
> competition.

Just note that article I sent about the South Sea Bubble.  Shortly after they got their stamp of approval from the King, they lobbied to cripple the competition by forbidding any stock to be traded unless the corporation had a charter from the King.

Corporations have been doing that even before Adam Smith was born.  Those are the kinds of shenanigans that destroy the efficacy of the "invisible hand".  When the South Sea Bubble burst, the difficulty of forming new businesses prolonged the disastrous effects.

Big business is the natural enemy of small business.   Government has a tendency to take the side of big business because they give bigger "campaign contributions".  But when  you weaken the elected government, there are no barriers of any kind to stop big businesses from becoming the worst imaginable kind of de facto government.

Have you ever heard of the company towns run by mining corporations in the 19th century?  Just listen to the song "16 Tons".  That is called laissez faire.  That is why the Republicans passed the anti-trust laws.

John


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