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Re: [ontolog-forum] An Ultra High Level Ontology-TIME

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From: "Rich Cooper" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:46:38 -0800
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I didn't think you would.    (01)

-Rich    (02)



Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com    (03)



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[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pat Hayes
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] An Ultra High Level Ontology-TIME    (04)


On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Rich Cooper wrote:    (05)

But i won't bother replying. Sigh.    (06)

Pat H    (07)

> Pat Hayes wrote:
>
> On Feb 11, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Rich Cooper wrote:
>
> <snip/>
>> My program reads a
>> statement that is in present tense, and therefore records the
>> statement in an RDB.  The statement says "X is happening."  Thus
>> the RDB record for that statement uses the present value of "Now".
>> It's the same Now that you use in Excel spreadsheets, but not
>> Turned into a numeric value of time - instead, it's the symbol NOW.
>> All statements in the present tense are recorded with the symbol  
>> "Now"
>> as the time of occurrence.
>
> [PH] A VERY bad idea. Do this, then wait a year or so, then look in  
> the
> [PH] RDB. Does it still have "Now" as the time in a table entry?  
> What does
> [PH] "Now" mean now; that is, then?
> [PH]
> [PH] Type "valid transaction time" into Google and read some stuff  
> before
> [PH] proceeding.
> [PH]
> [PH] Pat H
>
> It better have "Now" in the database a year later, or ten years later,
> because this is an NLP construction about present tense.  There may  
> be other
> temporal symbols such as you find in Temporal Logic math (Before,  
> During,
> After, Within(?), OverlapsBefore(?) and so on.  There is absolutely  
> no time
> stamp to be entered into this particular database.  Otherwise, I  
> wouldn't
> use the symbols instead of the numbers.
>
> Not all temporal algorithms use fully bound time stamps.  You may  
> want to
> google up "temporal logic operators" to understand what I mean here.
>
>
> HTH.
> -Rich
>
> Sincerely,
> Rich Cooper
> EnglishLogicKernel.com
> Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
>
>
>
>
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