>I think most mortals using common sense would
>have no difficulty in making the distinction
>between an opinion and a statement of fact. (01)
I agree. (02)
>The fact that seasoned logicians seem to have (03)
Actually I don't think they (we) do... (04)
>augers very badly (and thankfully) for any
>future for so-called "artificial intelligence"
>;-) (05)
Can't see the connection to AI, myself. But whatever. (06)
BTW, you might be amused to discover how much AI
is already included in ordinary technology: truck
braking systems, digital cameras, ATM machines,
etc.. AI systems check your credit rating and
make informed (and surprisingly inteliigent)
guesses about whether or not your credit card was
stolen recently. Its not so-called, its already
here. (07)
Pat (08)
>
>Peter
>
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>well, to be strict, that is clearly *not* a statement about someone's
>opinion, but rather about someone's actions; 'she says' does not imply
>'she believes'.
>
>but ignoring these picky details, what would 'concerned with opinion
>rather than with facts' mean, so that one could classify a statement as
>subjective rather than objective? what should the form of a statement
>be so that you would say 'that is clearly a subjective statement'?
>
>vQ
>
>
>John F. Sowa wrote:
>> Wacek,
>>
>> That is clearly an objective statement about somebody's
>> subjective opinion:
>>
>> > It sounds as if my saying 'the earth is flat' were
>> > an objective statement, while 'i think that the earth
>> > is flat' were a subjective statement. Is my saying
>> > 'she says the earth is flat' an objective or a
>> > subjective statement?
>>
>> In fact, journalists take advantage of that loophole:
>>
>> 1. Opinions in a newspaper are supposed to be confined
>> to the editorial pages.
>>
>> 2. The news pages are supposed to be objective.
>>
>> 3. But the news pages can contain quotations by
>> politicians who state their opinions.
>>
>> 4. Therefore, journalists can claim objectivity while
>> biasing their reporting by their choice of quotations.
>>
>> John
>>
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