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Re: [ontolog-forum] {Disarmed} Re: OWL and lack of identifiers

To: Waclaw Kusnierczyk <Waclaw.Marcin.Kusnierczyk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Ontolog Forum <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:31:02 -0700
Message-id: <p06230935c25a77e8301a@[]>
>Pat Hayes wrote:
>>>  > Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx> writes:
>>>>>  I think you are reading more into that word [objective] than
>>>>>  I do. Objective does not mean final, absolute, or
>>>>>  permanent. It means concerned with facts rather
>>>>>  than opinions.
>>>It sounds as if my saying 'the earth is flat' were an objective
>>>statement, while 'i think that the earth is flat' were a subjective
>>>statement.  Is my saying 'she says the earth is flat' an objective or a
>>>subjective statement?
>>Objective, in that it asserts something about what she said.
>good.  then if someone has some opinion, and i make a statement 
>about that opinion, is it an objective or a subjective statement? 
>'about that opinion' is to say the statement is 'her opinion is that 
>the earth is flat', rather than 'according to her opinion the earth 
>is flat' or 'she holds the opinion that the earth is flat' -- so 
>that the opinion is the subject of the statement?    (01)

Yes.    (02)

I think I see where you are going here. The conclusion will be that 
even my statements of my opinions are objective, because they are 
objective statements of my opinion. Hence, all assertions of any 
point of view are ultimately objective.    (03)

If I have this more or less right, then the response is that the 
distinction between a factual assertion and a mere opinion is that 
the latter is *about* an opinion or state of the speaker's beliefs, 
whereas the former is *about* an actual state of affairs in the real 
world.    (04)

Pat    (05)

>vQ    (06)

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