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Re: [ontolog-forum] {Disarmed} Re: OWL and lack of identifiers

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From: "Peter F Brown" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:31:02 +0200
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I think most mortals using common sense would have no difficulty in making the 
distinction between an opinion and a statement of fact. The fact that seasoned 
logicians seem to have augers very badly (and thankfully) for any future for 
so-called "artificial intelligence" ;-)    (01)

Peter    (02)

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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] {Disarmed} Re: OWL and lack of identifiers    (03)

well, to be strict, that is clearly *not* a statement about someone's 
opinion, but rather about someone's actions;  'she says' does not imply 
'she believes'.    (04)

but ignoring these picky details, what would 'concerned with opinion 
rather than with facts' mean, so that one could classify a statement as 
subjective rather than objective?  what should the form of a statement 
be so that you would say 'that is clearly a subjective statement'?    (05)

vQ    (06)


John F. Sowa wrote:
> Wacek,
> 
> That is clearly an objective statement about somebody's
> subjective opinion:
> 
>  > It sounds as if my saying 'the earth is flat' were
>  > an objective statement, while 'i think that the earth
>  > is flat' were a subjective statement.  Is my saying
>  > 'she says the earth is flat' an objective or a
>  > subjective statement?
> 
> In fact, journalists take advantage of that loophole:
> 
>   1. Opinions in a newspaper are supposed to be confined
>      to the editorial pages.
> 
>   2. The news pages are supposed to be objective.
> 
>   3. But the news pages can contain quotations by
>      politicians who state their opinions.
> 
>   4. Therefore, journalists can claim objectivity while
>      biasing their reporting by their choice of quotations.
> 
> John
>  
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