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Re: [ontolog-forum] Accommodating legacy software

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From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:22:56 -0400
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On 9/5/12 12:02 AM, doug foxvog wrote:
> On Tue, September 4, 2012 17:02, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>> On 9/4/12 3:41 PM, doug foxvog wrote:
>>> On Tue, September 4, 2012 12:34, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> ...
>
>>>> I believe Data denotes Subject Observation.
>>>> I believe all observations are comprised of:
>>>> 1. a subject
>>>> 2. subject attributes
>>>> 3. subject attribute values.
> ...
>>> One common type of observation is that A is between B and C.
>>> How would you express this with a single triple?    8)#
>> I would state that A is between B. A is Between C. Then I would define
>> the semantics of  the  'Between' predicate  .
> !??
> Let's explore this:
>    (and
>       (between   10 5 11)
>       (between   10 4 11)
>       (between   10 6 11)
>       (between   10 7 11))
> Using the KI translator this becomes:
>    AND
>      10 is between 5
>      10 is between 11
>      10 is between 4
>      10 is between 11
>      10 is between 6
>      10 is between 11
>      10 is between 7
>      10 is between 11.
>
> What semantics does the between predicate have?    (01)

And that isn't what I was conveying to you. Basically, at what point did 
you indicate we where dealing with typed literals? You said A between B 
and B between C.  Why on earth should I assume A, B, and C are typed 
literals? Just because you used the literal 'Between' in some kind of 
fuzzy context?    (02)

RDF is pretty clear about the semantics for typed literals.
>
> How about the quaternary predicate, isBetweenOnPath?
> Can you express the following with triples:
>
> (and
>    (isBetweenOnPath WashingtonDC Maryland Virginia I95)
>    (not (isBetweenOnPath WashingtonDC Maryland Virginia I495)))    (03)

I think we are now talking past ourselves.    (04)

If you have some alternative to RDF that works, just point me to it. I 
think that's the best use of our respective time at this juncture.    (05)

Kingsley
>
>
> -- doug foxvog
> ...
>> Kingsley
>>> -- doug foxvog
>
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Regards,    (08)

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