Matthew (01)
>> A name can be its own identity. More particularly, the string used as a
> name can be its own identity (02)
In some contexts yes, though I routinely work designing systems (as I'm sure
many others do) where names need their own identities so that statements can
be made about the name (for an example which I am dealing with right now: in
which territory is this identifier recognised, where the identifier type has
no inherent territorial limitations?), and if a name is its own identifier
then that may be ambiguous. But I made my tongue in cheek remark because the
issue that John describes reflects the real world problem of "meta-metadata"
being much larger than the metadata it is describing, which I am finding is
increasingly a practical concern as the need for identity becomes more and
more granular. (03)
Regards (04)
Godfrey (05)
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Subject: RE: [ontolog-forum] Practical onomastics... (06)
>
> Dear Godfrey,
>
> It's not that bad.
>
>> re John's comment on #1 - especially as you must then give unique names
>> to
>> the names, and then...
>
> MW: A name can be its own identity. More particularly, the string used as
> a
> name can be its own identity. Being a name is strictly about a use of that
> string by some community to refer to something.
>
> Regards
>
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>> Godfrey Rust
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John F. Sowa" <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Practical onomastics...
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On 5/20/2010 11:54 AM, Ed Barkmeyer wrote:
>> >> I agree with Doug on almost all points below. (I should, since
>> >> I said many of the same things.)
>> >
>> > I also agree with most of the comments on this thread, and I'd like
>> > to make some observations:
>> >
>> > 1. There is no such thing as an ideal naming convention that can
>> > be systematically applied to anything and everything.
>> >
>> > 2. Every naming convention is context dependent, although some
>> > contexts are larger than others.
>> >
>> > 3. Every convention proposed as a globally unique naming
>> > convention has been modified many times over and eventually
>> > accepted as yet another context-dependent convention.
>> >
>> > The proof of point #1 is simple: the number of bits required to
>> > assign a unique name to everything in the universe would require
>> > an even larger universe to store the names. Therefore, most
>> > things in our universe cannot be assigned unique names that
>> > can be stored in our universe.
>> >
>> > John Sowa
>> >
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