Christopher Spottiswoode wrote:
I might add that I have always valued appropriateness
of
concept over any kind of merely statistical
connection.
If even concepts (per se) are unique (like synsets) then isn't the
statistical spectrum of conceptional distribution (like WordNet synsets) also
ordered and unique in terms of some conceptional identifier over a vocabulary (of
said conceptions and synsets)?
-Rich
Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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Hmmm, Ferenc, maybe some words of warning for now:
In my last paragraph below I noted the further potential for data
mining, but that is only a very minor part of what I mean by
top-down/bottom-up processes. Worse, perhaps, from your point of
view, it is not where the main qualitative impact will be from the
spread of MACK. At risk of causing further confusion at this
stage, I might add that I have always valued appropriateness of
concept over any kind of merely statistical connection.
But I still eagerly look forward to the outcome your synchronizing
processes!
Christopher
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Chris, I think I should try to synchronize with you as many of
ideas
presented I share but call a different name.
Will elaborate on that soon.
Thanks a lot
Ferenc
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> Ferenc, thanks for all the further good comment.
>
>> I believe the big issue is how to connect common knowledge of
>> whatever representation since we seem to have a narrow
>> bandwidth
>> of keeping track of long sequences of information.
>
> Levels of abstraction are the basis of MACK's systematic
> approach
> to that problem, particularly how they fit in with the "join"
> concept as I introduced it from this point
>
http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2008-03/msg00249.html#nid039
> in the 3rd instalment of my "MACK basics" series.
"Composition"
> is another name often used for it, but I prefer the graphic or
> ERD
> word with its RDB meaning and associations.
>
> A more immediately relevant aspect is in this paragraph from a
> slightly later post by me:
>
http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2008-03/msg00254.html#nid019.
> (But don't follow up now on the unfulfilled promise in its last
> sentence!)
>
> Another major approach to your problem, so central as the
> problem
> is, concerns what I hesitantly call its UDDI- or WSDL-like
> functionality, as part of the whole market scene. I say
> "hesitantly" because (1) those specific
facilities/languages are
> far from being great advertisements for any concept, (2) their
> notion of component architecture needs throwing out, lock, stock
> and barrel, and, more centrally, (3) their conception of the
> nature of the market is not pitched right from epistemological
> or
> ontological points of view. (Sorry not to go into more
detail
> on
> that now!)
>
> To generalize, though, it is the integration of the market and
> component aspects of MACK as a philosophically-founded
> architecture which will bring about the foreseeable quantum leap
> of intuitive and agile functionality over those of traditional
> Web
> Search and Web Services.
>
>> It is not by chance for example that a forum on cognitive
>> linguisics cals for papers on the relations between cognitive
>> systems, their modular nature and interfaces. Therefore
>> products
>> that help connect various modalities of knowledge
>> representations, even befote they are structured at an
>> elementary level seem to be a winner: http://prezi.com/
>
> Google |metaset artificial creativity| to be pointed to my
> reluctant but still chosen use of a controversial phrase in the
> past. (Follow my 2 links above to see how I also refer to it
as
> "Koestler creativity".)
>
> But Ferenc, you seem to have a background in data mining, so you
> will surely love this forthcoming platform, and how it will help
> expedite the whole top-down/bottom-up process of creative
> discovery and invention!
>
> Christopher
>
>
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