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Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontologiesassocialmediators(was:Ontologydevelopment

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From: "Christopher Spottiswoode" <cms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 22:27:58 +0200
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Ferenc, I can't help observing that the two subjects of your two 
consecutive posts below, concerning, respectively, the conceptual 
domain and the sensor/activator function, both still so open and 
full of potential, have their exact counterparts in my so-called 
"agate ontology" introduced in my slideshow at 
http://TheMainstream.info/RTM.html which led you to my reference 
to Koestler's bisociation.  (Much more on all that, later, of 
course...)    (01)

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Ontologiesassocialmediators(was:Ontologydevelopment method)    (02)


And the issue of making sense of the world taken further:
"We're desperate for new materials to let robots be able to feel 
the world,"
says Chris Melhuish of the Bristol Robotics Laboratory in the UK. 
It's
equally important, he says, that artificial skin gives a pressure 
reading
that allows a robot to distinguish between different types of 
objects and
different patterns of forces.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427366.700-optical-pressure-sensors-give-robots-the-human-touch.html
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontologies
associalmediators(was:Ontologydevelopment method)    (03)


> Hi,
> I believe the big issue is how to connect common knowledge of 
> whatever
> representation since we seem to have a narrow bandwidth of 
> keeping track
> of
> long sequences of information. It is not by chance for example 
> that a
> forum
> on cognitive linguisics cals for papers on the relations between 
> cognitive
> systems, their modular nature and interfaces. Therefore products 
> that help
> connect various modalities of knowledge representations, even 
> befote they
> are structured at an elementary level seem to be a winner:
> http://prezi.com/
> Ferenc
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Spottiswoode" <cms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:45 PM
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> socialmediators(was:Ontologydevelopment method)
>
>
>> Paola,
>>
>> You had wondered:
>>
>>> RE. Koestler
>>> I read (and cited) excerpts from the Ghost in the Machine, was
>>> not aware of the book you mention below
>>> but since looking it up it looks he wrote a lot of stuff ,
>>> wonder how difficult its going to be to get hold of these 
>>> books
>>> in the library
>>
>> Good libraries should have it.  It's certainly read in at least
>> some relevant quarters.  Alan Kay in his keynote address at
>> OOPSLA'97 devoted a lot of attention to Koestler and his notion 
>> of
>> bisociation.
>>
>> In my OOPSLA'96 workshop paper,
>> http://jeffsutherland.com/oopsla96/spottisw.html, I had already
>> acknowledged my debt to Koestler, so I was most happy that the
>> inventor of windowing systems.should also find bisociation
>> relevant.  Cf. my last sentence of the paragraph concerned in 
>> the
>> post you were responding to:
>>
>>>> Hence the MACK notion of 'context', which involves an
>>>> ever-changing or kaleidoscopic new light on the particular
>>>> given and basic facts of the situation, with an intuitiveness
>>>> very similar to that of good multi-windowed applications.
>>
>> I hope you manage to lay your hands on the book, and thanks for
>> agreeing it might be relevant to our common interests!
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>>
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