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Hi Erick,
The problem is in finding the "killer app". It's not difficult to persuade someone of the potential of semantic models, it's proving it convincingly that takes some doing. I'm not sure I've seen an application yet that really demonstrates the power of an ontology over and above a traditional database system. I've seen plenty of ontology demos and small scale stuff that's really clever (and could never be done with a traditional approach), but hardly anything on a production scale.
Cheers -- Ian 2009/10/23 Erick Antezana <erick.antezana@xxxxxxxxx>
Dear Ian, Matthew,
thanks a lot for your replies (very interesting projects). I was
wondering how hard or how easy was to "convince" your people (ranging
from supervisors/managers to end users) and/or budget keepers or
funding agencies in your respective companies (e.g. Shell) or research
centers to embark on a relatively "new" (not that popularised)
technology (referring to ontologies, Semantic Web, standards like ISO
15926, etc...). Have you faced any walls which were difficult to
overcome? As engineers, we can probably "see" more easily the added
value we could get once an integrated system based on standards (and
ontologies) is up and running. Users are more than convinced that
having a controlled vocabulary and standards are a must. Nevertheless,
such integration could also be achieved by using "classic"
technologies (relational databases) and still be able to exchange
complex information. Could you share you experience in those regards?
regards,
Erick
2009/10/22 Matthew West <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Dear Erick,
>
>> I can think of a couple of projects, and I think Chris Partridge
>> has some
>> examples from the financial industries also.
>>
>> One involved an oil company (a big one !) that I'm not allowed to
>> name, but
>> the chap who ran the project follows this forum, so I expect he'll
>> contact
>> you offline.
>
> MW: That will be me then, and the oil company is Shell, whom I used to
> work for.
>
>> The project had two threads - one was around having a
>> common
>> foundation for all the data models across their downstream
>> business.
>
> The first project Ian mentions was a data model of Shell's Downstream
> Business. I did a presentation of this at the DAMA conference in London
> a few years ago.
> http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/documents/DAMA%20Developing%20Shell's%20D
> ownstream%20Data%20Model.ppt
>
>> The
>> other was an implementation to integrate the dictionaries of
>> various ERP
>> systems.
>
> MW: That I don't have anything on in the public domain. But this might
> be interesting:
> http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/documents/STEPintoTheRealWorld.PDF
>
> It is about integrating engineering data for a major project.
>
> Regards
>
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