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Re: [ontolog-forum] ISO merged ontology effort "MCO"

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From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:01:54 -0700
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And why I find folksonomies intriguing.    (01)

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On 17-Apr-09, at 15:48, "Pat Hayes" <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote:    (03)

>
> On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Ed Barkmeyer wrote:
>
>>
>>> EB>> I, for one, would prefer to see the next 5+ years spent on
>>>>> in vivo testing of knowledge engineering concepts, and on
>>>>> the development of a discipline.  Think of it as the medical
>>>>> experience that will give us some knowledge of the required
>>>>> properties of your panacea.
>>>
>>> [MW] I agree. It would be a good idea to know what we are doing
>>> before doing it on a large scale.
>>>
>>> [JFS] I strongly agree.  That was the point of my note on
>>> methodology,
>>> which emphasizes the distinctions as more fundamental than the
>>> particular choice of categories.
>>
>> Now that we are all in violent agreement, I would point out that
>> Amanda
>> said it first:
>>
>>> The best way to develop an upper ontology may be to let it emerge.
>>> Pursue
>>> applied ontology projects as described above, and bring in the
>>> upper (and
>>> upper-middle) as they are needed. Bring in higher level concepts as
>>> you need
>>> them to connect concepts accross domains, to model the logical
>>> behavior and
>>> other characteristics of the domain-specific concepts, to avoid
>>> redundant
>>> and oddly-placed assertions on domain concepts that can accurately
>>> be placed
>>> on shared concepts shared across the domains.
>>
>
> Indeed. I would point out that this is almost exactly the Semantic Web
> vision of how ontologies will evolve through use and re-use of
> concepts, so that a system of useful concepts with commonly accepted
> ontological content attached to them will emerge from their use by a
> community.
>
> Even more of us are in violent agreement, it seems.
>
> Pat H
>
>
>> -Ed
>>
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