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Re: [ontolog-forum] ISO merged ontology effort "MCO"

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From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:47:24 -0500
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On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Ed Barkmeyer wrote:    (01)

>
>> EB>> I, for one, would prefer to see the next 5+ years spent on
>>>> in vivo testing of knowledge engineering concepts, and on
>>>> the development of a discipline.  Think of it as the medical
>>>> experience that will give us some knowledge of the required
>>>> properties of your panacea.
>>
>> [MW] I agree. It would be a good idea to know what we are doing
>> before doing it on a large scale.
>>
>> [JFS] I strongly agree.  That was the point of my note on  
>> methodology,
>> which emphasizes the distinctions as more fundamental than the
>> particular choice of categories.
>
> Now that we are all in violent agreement, I would point out that  
> Amanda
> said it first:
>
>> The best way to develop an upper ontology may be to let it emerge.   
>> Pursue
>> applied ontology projects as described above, and bring in the  
>> upper (and
>> upper-middle) as they are needed. Bring in higher level concepts as  
>> you need
>> them to connect concepts accross domains, to model the logical  
>> behavior and
>> other characteristics of the domain-specific concepts, to avoid  
>> redundant
>> and oddly-placed assertions on domain concepts that can accurately  
>> be placed
>> on shared concepts shared across the domains.
>    (02)

Indeed. I would point out that this is almost exactly the Semantic Web  
vision of how ontologies will evolve through use and re-use of  
concepts, so that a system of useful concepts with commonly accepted  
ontological content attached to them will emerge from their use by a  
community.    (03)

Even more of us are in violent agreement, it seems.    (04)

Pat H    (05)


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