I am not suggesting building an ontology on a wiki. (01)
What I would like to see is a collaborative development of the business
case for the project that you propose on the wiki. (02)
If you can do the $30M project by yourself, this may not be required. (03)
Ron (04)
Patrick Cassidy wrote:
> Ron:
>
>> If you don't want to do it with this group, say so and quit harping on
>> it. Find a group that you think is sufficiently visionary to help you
>> put together the proposal.
>>
>>
>
> I will be happy to build a common foundation ontology with any group, and in
> the absence of contributions from others I am myself building the COSMO so
> that I will have an ontology with a structure that allows me to test its
> adequacy as a set of fundamental concept representations that can be used to
> create representations of any other more specialized concept. The COSMO, in
> its latest version, is available online and is open to addition of any basic
> concept that anyone thinks is missing, and I welcome contributions,
> modifications, and corrections; the only inclusion criterion is that
> concepts added should be non-redundant and logically consistent with the
> existing content - if not, there has to be a discussion of which is more
> appropriate to the purpose. Specialized concepts that can be represented as
> combinations of the basic concepts can be included in an extension. I
> invite anyone with an interest in creating a foundation ontology that can
> serve to promote interoperability to join in the effort. The COSMO is free
> to use, as are SUMO and OpenCyc, but the COSMO is intended to include
> contributions from any interested source, and that differs from the SUMO and
> Cyc development models.
>
> The problem is, there is a great deal of work that needs to be done by a lot
> of people to create a broadly usable foundation ontology, including building
> non-trivial applications that use the ontology both for domain applications
> and for interoperability. But we know from the experience of the past dozen
> years that that cannot happen without serious funding. We also know that
> even the creation of a consortium to apply for the funding is highly
> unlikely unless there is some encouragement from a funding source that such
> a proposal would be seriously considered. No such encouragement has yet
> been detected, and that is where the formal proposal is stuck. If anyone is
> nevertheless willing to help write a formal proposal without any evidence
> that such a proposal actually has a chance of funding, please let me know
> and I will be happy to work on it together.
>
> The ontology itself cannot be built on a wiki. The ontology has to be
> coherent, non-redundant, and logically consistent, so there has to be
> central control by some person or control committee. There may be useful
> discussions that can be held in a wiki, but I am reluctant to hold such a
> discussion with myself in that manner, and must await serious interest from
> others before employing that method.
>
> In the various posts I have mentioned in parts the rationale, goals and
> methods for the FO project. At some point I will collect those into a more
> organized presentation. But until it appears that such an effort will have
> some useful purpose, I am focusing my own work on building the ontology that
> I think will help shed light on what I consider a seriously interesting
> question about the fundamental nature of symbolic information: are all
> concepts people use based on some small set of primitives, or not? I
> believe that a positive answer would provide us with the method for
> achieving semantic interoperability in the most efficient manner.
>
> Pat
>
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