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Re: [ontolog-forum] ISO merged ontology effort "MCO"

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From: Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:34:35 -0400
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Why don't you guys take this off-line. Sort it out. Put an article on 
the wiki and then send 1 e-mail to inform anyone who wants an 
ontologically perfect definition of ad hominem whatevers, that they can 
go and read it.    (01)

Ron    (02)


Christopher Menzel wrote:
> On Apr 17, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Ryan Kohl wrote:
>   
>> Azamat seems to be right - an ad hominem argument would be of the  
>> form "Statement X is true/false because person Y said Z"
>>     
>
> Or "did Z" or "is a Republican" or ....  Basically, any attempt to  
> suggest Y's assertion is false by attacking Y's character or  
> questioning Y's motives is an ad hominem argument.  Also, I'd say that  
> you only want "false", rather than "true/false" above; an argument  
> that appeals to what Y said or did as a reason for the *truth* of X is  
> usually a so-called "appeal to authority".  Would you agree, Ryan?
>
>   
>> Suggesting that somebody is a hypocrite or inconsistent has the form
>> "Person X is Y"
>> So the latter doesn't indeed seem to be ad hominem.  Rather, it has  
>> the
>> form of a personal attack, or slander.
>>     
>
> Right.
>
> -chris
>
>
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