Mike,
I hate any ad hominem argument, in any forms. The point was: if somebody is
a scholar, not a politician, the actions must be consistent with his
thoughts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Bennett" <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] ISO merged ontology effort "MCO" (01)
> That's very ad hominem. I think I will follow up the idea of selectively
> marking messages from those who prefer to attack the motivation or
> person rather than the substance. If you have anything interesting to
> say in the future, I for one probably won't see it.
>
> Mike
>
> Azamat wrote:
>> The same person actively arguing against any possibility of standard
>> ontology at the same time pushing a US Army baked "semantic
>> foundations" as an ISO standard.
>> A case of double personality? "A person having two minds and when they
>> are in the next state or character they don't know about their
>> previous stage." Or just hypocrisy?
>>
>> O tempora o mores!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Pat Hayes <mailto:phayes@xxxxxxx>
>> *To:* edbark@xxxxxxxx <mailto:edbark@xxxxxxxx> ; [ontolog-forum]
>> <mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 5:45 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [ontolog-forum] ISO merged ontology effort "MCO"
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Ed Barkmeyer wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick Cassidy wrote:
>>>> FYI: Result of 'MCO' study on a standard upper ontology:
>>>> Proposal not adopted.
>>>> The issue is still important, and I would suggest we continue
>>>> this thread
>>>> for a while.
>>>>
>>>> Pat
>>>>
>>>> Doc No: 2N1854
>>>> Replaces: --
>>>> Doc Type: Summary of voting/Table of Replies
>>>> Date: 2009-04-12
>>>> Title: Summary of Voting on 32N1833 Request for SC32/WG2
>>>> study period
>>>> on standardized concept systems and semantic descriptions for
>>>> merged core
>>>> ontology (MCO) as proposed in 32N1807 Due Date: -
>>>> Pages: 3
>>>> Source: SC32 Secretariat
>>>> Project: 1.32.02
>>>> Status: proposed SC32 resolution is not adopted due to
>>>> insufficient
>>>> number of P-members voting (JTC1 Directives, 9.1.10)
>>>> Action: FYI
>>>
>>> Thanks, Pat.
>>> Interestingly, the proposal was defeated by lack of quorum -- too
>>> few
>>> national bodies sent in their ballots. That suggests that there is
>>> little interest in such a standard. Another tempest in a teapot.
>>
>> Now this has died the death, I can with a clear conscience reveal
>> that the initiative for this ISO merging of merged upper
>> ontologies came from the US Army, in the person of Jim Schoening,
>> who has been active in promoting "Upper" ontologies for some time
>> now (including the granddaddy of them, SUMO).
>>
>> The motivation, among US Government agencies, for seeking ISO
>> certification, is not to establish a New World Order that all must
>> obey, or indeed to impose upon anyone else in any way at all. It
>> is simply that there is a broad Government mandate to use ISO
>> standards where possible, so that anything that has achieved ISO
>> standardization status is easier to get funded, easier to get
>> supported and easier to "sell" to other agencies. ISO
>> standardization, amazingly enough, is a potent aid towards
>> achieving interoperability /within/ the US government, as well as
>> outside it.
>>
>> Pat Hayes
>>
>>>
>>> -Ed
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