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From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:05:22 -0800
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>  The fact that we cannot observe or measure something does not mean
>that it does not exist, ( ike PatH would perhaps 
>believe) but that we have not yet developed the 
>technology and techniques to observe
>and measure them.    (01)

No, it does not mean that. It means that we have 
no reason to suppose that they DO exist. We 
cannot observe invisible green mice who hide 
behind protons, but not because nobody has 
developed the technology to observe and measure 
them yet. As far as 'brain waves' are concerned, 
if by this you mean things like the alpha rhythm 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_wave, then we 
have, of course, developed the techniques to 
observe and measure them. If you mean something 
else, please explain what it is that you do mean.    (02)

Pat    (03)

>I put this response here instead of the 
>existentialism branch because the issue has to 
>do with the real world. There is an election 
>coming up, policies will change. There are 
>emergencies that require organized responses. 
>There is a motherload of historical work being 
>digitized and a total change in media for 
>contemporary delivery - every facet of every 
>thing that one brain might make, be recorded and 
>distributed in some fashion in the hopes another 
>might be interested in has to move on from one 
>person or machine directly interfacing to bigger 
>geometry because one to one is unsolvable...or 
>why bother to solve it, it would just be between 
>those two that got it. Ontologies are the new 
>poems maybe.
>Deborah L. MacPherson
>Projects Director, Accuracy&Aesthetics
>Specifier, WDG Architecture PLLC
>On Dec 14, 2007 1:24 AM, John F. Sowa 
>I agree that the notion of existence is important.  But that is
>implied by the definition of 'function'.  Any function f(x) must
>obey the following axiom:
>    (Ax)(E!y)f(x)=y.
>For every x, there exists exactly one y such that f(x)=y.
>Since the term 'functional dependency' has been commonly used in
>the database field for the past 30 years, it is already familiar
>to many programmers.  Rather than invent a new term, it would seem
>better to take a term that is commonly used in one field (databases)
>and extend it to a related field (knowledge bases).
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