Excellent! It looks like my General
Enterprise Management (GEM) approach’s required technology capability is
rapidly being approached by this community. The clear path ahead is to use ontologies
built from integrated processes and unified data, first through building taxonomies
and then thesauri for the bounded namespace and security space of the
enterprise as a whole and its environment (i.e., eventually inclusive of the
whole world – packaged as a “semantic web”. This is
definitely the way to proceed to what I’ve called the one world
information system for the past couple of decades. The GEM approach has a
methodology, metaschema, and supporting technology specifications, and this
community has moved strongly towards the later two of metaschema and supporting
technology. If you want to use the methodology (with two main functions of operations
and intelligence management) to help in organizing, managing, and evolving your
enterprises, register for its free use at http://www.one-world-is.com/beam.
Roy
From:
ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jayne E Dutra
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006
3:42 PM
To: [ontolog-forum] ;
[ontolog-forum]
Subject: RE: Database and
Ontologies [was-Re: [ontolog-forum] A problem]
We also use Seamark and our customers really like the intuitive methods for
browsing. By applying a common reference data model to disparate previously
silo'ed repositories, we have been able to unify our information space into a
more cohesive electronic environment.
I think the Semantic Web technologies enable us to do that, but it's really the
taxonomy that provides the conceptual framework.
Just my 2 cents,
Jayne
At 02:34 PM 8/15/2006, Arsic, Antoinette wrote:
Content-class:
urn:content-classes:message
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6C0B2.A27E435F"
I recently got an evaluation copy of Seamark (by
Siderean) which pulls from databases, urls, xml, you practically name it, and
through an xslt template they "turn everything" into RDF triples (and
quads). I just got some development training from them and unfortunately my
funding for working on that project was pulled. It would be nice to have a
chance to do something with it.
------------------------------
Antoinette
Arsic
The MITRE Corporation
From:
ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Daconta
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:11
PM
To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Database and Ontologies [was-Re:
[ontolog-forum] A problem]
Hi Folks,
I don't see Semantic web technologies replacing
relational databases but as being the glue between them. In other words, for
the abstraction level above the database - that which also binds it to other
types of data assets.
Regards,
- Mike
--------------------------
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
-----Original Message-----
From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: [ontolog-forum]
Sent: Tue Aug 15 17:06:45 2006
Subject: RE: Database and Ontologies [was-Re:
[ontolog-forum] A problem]
Hi Owen,
<Quote>
we only need ONE "database", i.e., the Web
populated with valid XML
instance documents.
</Quote>
Yes - and more specifically, in RDF and OWL as well.
Joe
Joseph Chiusano
Associate
Booz Allen Hamilton
700
13th St. NW, Suite 1100
Washington, DC 20005
O: 202-508-6514
C: 202-251-0731
Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[
mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Owen_Ambur@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:50 PM
To: [ontolog-forum]
Subject: Re: Database and Ontologies [was-Re:
[ontolog-forum] A problem]
Several years ago at an eGov conference in Washington, DC,
Larry Ellison
(being Larry Ellison) made the intentionally
provocative statement: "We
sell databases and you (government agencies) are
buying too many of
them."
His argument was that we should be implementing
*larger* databases --
Oracle databases, of course.
However, I would take his argument one step further to
suggest that we
only need ONE "database", i.e., the Web
populated with valid XML
instance documents.
Needless to say, I too am overstating the case to be
provocative.
However, I do believe there is much truth in my
argument.
Owen Ambur
Co-Chair, xmlCoP http://xml.gov/
Project Manager, ET.gov http://et.gov/
"Peter P. Yim"
<peter.yim@xxxxxx
om>
To
Sent
by:
"[ontolog-forum]"
ontolog-forum-bou
<ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
nces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
cc
.net
Subject
Database and Ontologies [was-Re:
08/15/2006 11:25
[ontolog-forum] A problem]
AM
Please respond to
"[ontolog-forum]
"
<ontolog-forum@on
tolog.cim3.net>
Thank you for the post, Tanya.
1. Problem with registration: I'll try to resolve this
with you offline.
2. Database and Ontologies:
> [TM] I am very interested to participate in
discussions and >
research about merging databases and ontologies,
bringing > database
practices to ontological development and other
> issues related to
databases and ontologies.
[ppy] presumably, (almost) anything related to
ontologies would be
within scope for us at Ontolog. Obviously how database
and ontologies
relate to each other in the next generation
semantic/knowledge-based
applications would be an area well worth
delving into.
Let's find out who else is interested ... ANYONE?
Like what Tatiana has done here, if anyone is
interested or working in
this area, please indicate by responding to this
thread, and suggest
what you want to see and/or what you can bring to the
table, as far as
this topic is concerned.
... Being a community of practice (ref:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CommunityofPractice)
this topic
will get addressed if there is adequate interest and
energy behind it
from the community.
Thanks you for highlighting this important topic,
Tanya.
Regards. =ppy
--
Tatiana Malyuta wrote Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:51:30 -0400:
> Peter,
>
> I am terribly sorry to bother you with such silly
things. I wanted to
> participate in the conference calls and many
times tried to register
> at the site that is in the bottom of your
invitation emails. However,
> I failed to do so. I emailed the Customer Support
of the site, but
> haven't recieved any response. That is why I
haven't participated and
> did not respond to the invitations.
>
> Maybe you could tell me what possibly I am doing
wrong.
>
> In general, I am very interested to participate
in discussions and
> research about merging databases and ontologies,
bringing database
> practices to ontological development and other
issues related to
> databases and ontologies. Can you direct my here?
Please disregard if
> you are not involved with this.
>
> Sorry again and thank you,
>
> Tanya
>
> P.S. Please disregard the previous email--I hit
Enter by mistake.
Sorry.
_________________________________________________________________
Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/
Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Config:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/
Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/
Community Wiki:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/
To Post:
mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
_________________________________________________________________
Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/
Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Config:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/
Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/
Community Wiki:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/
To Post:
mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
_________________________________________________________________
Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/
Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/
Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/
Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/
To Post: mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
_________________________________________________________________
Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/
Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/
Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/
Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/
To Post: mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*******************************
Jayne Dutra
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Information Architecture and Semantic Engineering
Section 372K
818-354-6948
******************************