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RE: Database and Ontologies [was-Re: [ontolog-forum] A problem]

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From: "Roy Roebuck" <Roy.Roebuck@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:45:59 -0400
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I would submit that a domain or broader enterprise thesaurus may be used as a 
form of advanced "data element dictionary" regarding the database metadata and 
as the "unifying" foundation for the full vocabulary present in the domain or 
enterprise-bounded unstructured, semi-structured, and structured content 
(metadata and data).      (01)

As part of that, selecting a definition for each thesaurus entry from an online 
dictionary such as WordNet, or adding your own definition (e.g., using Pat 
Cassidy's recent tool for building commonly understandable definitions using 
LDOCE, referenced below) would give you the specific "sense or meaning" of each 
thesaurus term in a given use or context.  It would also give you the means to 
identify "synonyms" and such of each term, as well as the 
"enterprise-preferred" and "domain-variant" terms.  This puts you into the 
position to technically implement multi-lingual (as well as multi-domain) term 
translation.    (02)

Then you start a "term refinement and standardization process" as part of a 
normal improvement, development, modernization, and enhancement effort, all 
within a more encompassing spiral life cycle management process for the domain 
or enterprise, encompassing the value-chain of the enterprise within its 
environment.  I have diagrams and such on this generalized-management-process 
spiral life cycle for anyone that is interested, available at no cost under a 
Creative Commons license.    (03)

See ANSI/NISO Z39.19-2005 ISBN 1-880124-65-3, Guidelines for the Construction, 
Format, and Management of Monolingual Controlled Vocabularies.  There are also 
related ISO standards for monolingual and multi-lingual controlled vocabularies.    (04)

See Longman's Dictionary of Contemporary English (also called LDOCE.  Longman 
Publishers Ltd., London: http://pewebdic2.cw.idm.fr/)    (05)

Roy
 
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Enterprise Architecture for Enterprise Management, Security, and Knowledge    (06)

 
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marcel van 
Mackelenbergh
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:12 AM
To: [ontolog-forum] 
Subject: RE: Database and Ontologies [was-Re: [ontolog-forum] A problem]    (08)

Hi,     (09)

I would like to join the merge-database/ontologies challenge. What I
would like to understand is what an agent needs to do to interpret
correctly what is meant by the information in the database/ontology. I
want to prevent that information is interpreted in the wrong way because
the agent did not have the context for which the information was
developed.    (010)

Marcel    (011)

Marcel van Mackelenbergh
Be Value
Apeldoorn, the Netherlands
mvanmackelenbergh@xxxxxxxxxxx
www.be-value.nl
Phone: +31 55 - 599 4400
Cell:    +31 6 - 270 44 918    (012)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter P. Yim
> Sent: dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 17:26
> To: [ontolog-forum]
> Subject: Database and Ontologies [was-Re: [ontolog-forum] A problem]
> 
> Thank you for the post, Tanya.
> 
> 1. Problem with registration: I'll try to resolve this with you
> offline.
> 
> 2. Database and Ontologies:
> 
>  > [TM] I am very interested to participate in discussions and
>  > research about merging databases and ontologies, bringing
>  > database practices to ontological development and other
>  > issues related to databases and ontologies.
> 
> [ppy] presumably, (almost) anything related to ontologies would
> be within scope for us at Ontolog. Obviously how database and
> ontologies relate to each other in the next generation
> semantic/knowledge-based applications would be an area well worth
>   delving into.
> 
> Let's find out who else is interested ... ANYONE?
> Like what Tatiana has done here, if anyone is interested or
> working in this area, please indicate by responding to this
> thread, and suggest what you want to see and/or what you can
> bring to the table, as far as this topic is concerned.
> 
> ... Being a community of practice (ref:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CommunityofPractice) this
> topic will get addressed if there is adequate interest and energy
> behind it from the community.
> 
> Thanks you for highlighting this important topic, Tanya.
> 
> Regards.  =ppy
> --
> 
> 
> Tatiana Malyuta wrote Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:51:30 -0400:
> > Peter,
> >
> > I am terribly sorry to bother you with such silly things. I wanted
to
> > participate in the conference calls and many times tried to register
at
> > the site that is in the bottom of your invitation emails. However, I
> > failed to do so. I emailed the Customer Support of the site, but
haven't
> > recieved any response. That is why I haven't participated and did
not
> > respond to the invitations.
> >
> > Maybe you could tell me what possibly I am doing wrong.
> >
> > In general, I am very interested to participate in discussions and
> > research about merging databases and ontologies, bringing database
> > practices to ontological development and other issues related to
> > databases and ontologies. Can you direct my here? Please disregard
if
> > you are not involved with this.
> >
> > Sorry again and thank you,
> >
> > Tanya
> >
> > P.S. Please disregard the previous email--I hit Enter by mistake.
Sorry.
> 
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