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Re: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology - WSMO and SWSF

To: John Domingue <j.b.domingue@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:54:24 -0700
Message-id: <42B84640.80808@xxxxxxxx>
Thanks, John.    (01)

I've captured that onto our Thursday agenda at: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_06_23#nidDCP    (02)

=ppy
--    (03)

John Domingue wrote Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:18:24 +0100:
> OK. If i use any slides they will be from the presentation at the recent 
> W3C workshop on frameworks for semantics in web services. These are 
> available at: http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf
> 
> 
> john    (04)


> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "John Domingue" <j.b.domingue@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology - WSMO and SWSF
> 
> 
>> John,
>>
>>
>>
>> > yes I can join.
>>
>> Thank you for the quick response, and for agreeing to join us at the 
>> regular call this week.
>>
>> With regular weekly calls like this one, we generally just chat and 
>> cover some routine items (see details on the agenda on the link 
>> provided in the last message.)
>>
>> We run "Invited Speakers" and "Technical Discussion" sessions too, and 
>> those would probably be the right venues for the group to explore 
>> further into particular subject matters (like WSMO or SWSF, etc.) 
>> Considering that the community seems to know little about the matter, 
>> our call this Thursday could help us establish the relevance, urgency 
>> and member interest on the subject, and hence, your guidance on how we 
>> could best position the subject with other initiatives and areas of 
>> interest to our community.
>> Therefore you shouldn't need to prepare a presentation for this 
>> Thursday. Your presence to spend a few minutes on a general 
>> introduction and to answer questions, I'm sure, will be quite adequate.
>>
>> Of course, if you do have previous slide decks available online, or 
>> other relevant URL's that you can point our members to, that would be 
>> most helpful too. You are most welcomed to post them (either as a 
>> response to this message or directly onto the wiki) prior to the call. 
>> [Do note our IPR policy, though - see: 
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32 )
>>
>> I shall look forward to talking to you in person on Thursday.
>>
>> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>>
>> P.S. if the charter of the Ontolog community (see: 
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB) is relevant 
>> to your work, I would encourage you to join us (either as an active 
>> member or, at least, as an observer. See details under: 
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J)
>> --     (05)


>> John Domingue wrote Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:40:59 +0100:
>>
>>> yes I can join. Should i prepare a presentation?
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> john
>>>
>>> ___________________________
>>> Dr. John Domingue,
>>> Deputy Director,
>>> Knowledge Media Institute,
>>> The Open University,
>>> Walton Hall, Milton Keynes, MK6 7AA
>>> http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/domingue/    (06)


>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "[ontolog-forum]" 
>>> <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Cc: <j.b.domingue@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology - WSMO and SWSF
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank you, Peter.
>>>>
>>>> John (Domingue),
>>>>
>>>> Any chance you could come join us at one of our regular calls to 
>>>> explore this further? Our next call is coming up this Thursday 
>>>> 23-Jun-2005. I'll send you an "invitation" to the call. (You can 
>>>> also see the agenda and other details at: 
>>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_06_23)
>>>>
>>>> Best regards.  =ppy
>>>> --     (07)


>>>> Peter F Brown wrote Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:01:42 +0200:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter, Duane:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't feel competent to lead any discussion on WSMO myself, but I 
>>>>> could
>>>>> suggest John Domingue (in copy) of the Knowledge Media Institute at 
>>>>> the Open
>>>>> University in the UK, who presented in Innsbruck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> -Peter F Brown    (08)


>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
>>>>> Sent: 16 June 2005 17:08
>>>>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology
>>>>>
>>>>>  > [DN] M. Yim, would you consider placing an subject on our  > 
>>>>> next agenda
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> [ppy] Will do, Duane. I'll make sure that gets onto the agenda of 
>>>>> the Thu
>>>>> 2005.06.23 ontolog call.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Brown (anyone else, too), would there be a good candidate you 
>>>>> can
>>>>> recommend.
>>>>>
>>>>> On a related note (guess quite a few of you might have caught this 
>>>>> too) ...
>>>>> the following was posted to the [protege-discussion] list:
>>>>>
>>>>> //
>>>>> To: protege-discussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> From: Michael Shepherd <mshepherd -at- xeroxlabs dot com>
>>>>> Subject: [protege-discussion]  SWSF
>>>>> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:54:18 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any activities in regards to Protege and the new Semantic 
>>>>> Web
>>>>> Services Framework (SWSF) that the DAML group has been working?  
>>>>> SWSL, FLOWS
>>>>> and ROWS appear to be an alternative to OWL and OWL-S, but industry 
>>>>> support
>>>>> seems minimal at this point given that v1.0 was just released last 
>>>>> month.
>>>>> There is also some discussion on the DAML site about synergy and 
>>>>> backward
>>>>> compatibility with OWL mainly via WSML.  Can someone perhaps 
>>>>> enlighten me
>>>>> about how these standards inter-relate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> //
>>>>>
>>>>> Guess there are others who would want to find out too!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers.  =ppy
>>>>> --     (09)


>>>>> Duane Nickull wrote ed, 15 Jun 2005 11:39:25 -0700:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Peter, Nicolas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> M. Yim, would you consider placing an subject on our next agenda 
>>>>>> to discuss a possible invitation to the gentlemen below to present 
>>>>>> to our Group?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Duane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter F Brown wrote Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:48:38 +0200:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Duane:
>>>>>>> WSMO was presented in detail last week at the W3 semantic web 
>>>>>>> services workshop in Innsbruck, Austria - WSMO's "home base", as 
>>>>>>> it is largely promoted by the Innsbruck-based Digital Enterprise 
>>>>>>> Research Institute (DERI), with considerable support from the 
>>>>>>> European
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Commission.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is some concern about the pressure being mounted by DERI to 
>>>>>>> have WSMO "adopted as a standard" (although not clear by whom: 
>>>>>>> W3C?). The European Commission will be looking at this over the 
>>>>>>> coming months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a good overview of WSMO at:
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf used at 
>>>>>>> the workshop. It might be worth contacting John Domingue from the 
>>>>>>> UK Open University, who made the presentation, and with whom I 
>>>>>>> had a couple of bried talks during the activity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Peter    (010)


>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Duane Nickull
>>>>>>> Sent: 11 June 2005 01:18
>>>>>>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>>>>>>> Subject: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/Submission/2005/SUBM-WSMO-20050603/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Might be an idea to extend an invite for a presentation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Duane Nickull 
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