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Re: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology - WSMO and SWSF

To: John Domingue <j.b.domingue@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:22:18 -0700
Message-id: <42B8148A.9080400@xxxxxxxx>
John,    (01)

 > yes I can join.    (02)

Thank you for the quick response, and for agreeing to join us at 
the regular call this week.    (03)

With regular weekly calls like this one, we generally just chat 
and cover some routine items (see details on the agenda on the 
link provided in the last message.)    (04)

We run "Invited Speakers" and "Technical Discussion" sessions 
too, and those would probably be the right venues for the group 
to explore further into particular subject matters (like WSMO or 
SWSF, etc.) Considering that the community seems to know little 
about the matter, our call this Thursday could help us establish 
the relevance, urgency and member interest on the subject, and 
hence, your guidance on how we could best position the subject 
with other initiatives and areas of interest to our community.
Therefore you shouldn't need to prepare a presentation for this 
Thursday. Your presence to spend a few minutes on a general 
introduction and to answer questions, I'm sure, will be quite 
adequate.    (05)

Of course, if you do have previous slide decks available online, 
or other relevant URL's that you can point our members to, that 
would be most helpful too. You are most welcomed to post them 
(either as a response to this message or directly onto the wiki) 
prior to the call. [Do note our IPR policy, though - see: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32 )    (06)

I shall look forward to talking to you in person on Thursday.    (07)

Thanks & regards.  =ppy    (08)

P.S. if the charter of the Ontolog community (see: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB) is 
relevant to your work, I would encourage you to join us (either 
as an active member or, at least, as an observer. See details 
under: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J)
--    (09)

John Domingue wrote Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:40:59 +0100:
> yes I can join. Should i prepare a presentation?
> regards
> john
> ___________________________
> Dr. John Domingue,
> Deputy Director,
> Knowledge Media Institute,
> The Open University,
> Walton Hall, Milton Keynes, MK6 7AA
> http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/domingue/    (010)

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "[ontolog-forum]" 
> <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <j.b.domingue@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology - WSMO and SWSF
>> Thank you, Peter.
>> John (Domingue),
>> Any chance you could come join us at one of our regular calls to 
>> explore this further? Our next call is coming up this Thursday 
>> 23-Jun-2005. I'll send you an "invitation" to the call. (You can also 
>> see the agenda and other details at: 
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_06_23)
>> Best regards.  =ppy
>> --     (011)

>> Peter F Brown wrote Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:01:42 +0200:
>>> Peter, Duane:
>>> I don't feel competent to lead any discussion on WSMO myself, but I 
>>> could
>>> suggest John Domingue (in copy) of the Knowledge Media Institute at 
>>> the Open
>>> University in the UK, who presented in Innsbruck.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> -Peter F Brown    (012)

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
>>> Sent: 16 June 2005 17:08
>>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology
>>>  > [DN] M. Yim, would you consider placing an subject on our  > next 
>>> agenda
>>> ...
>>> [ppy] Will do, Duane. I'll make sure that gets onto the agenda of the 
>>> Thu
>>> 2005.06.23 ontolog call.
>>> Peter Brown (anyone else, too), would there be a good candidate you can
>>> recommend.
>>> On a related note (guess quite a few of you might have caught this 
>>> too) ...
>>> the following was posted to the [protege-discussion] list:
>>> //
>>> To: protege-discussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> From: Michael Shepherd <mshepherd -at- xeroxlabs dot com>
>>> Subject: [protege-discussion]  SWSF
>>> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:54:18 +0000 (UTC)
>>> Hi all,
>>> Are there any activities in regards to Protege and the new Semantic Web
>>> Services Framework (SWSF) that the DAML group has been working?  
>>> and ROWS appear to be an alternative to OWL and OWL-S, but industry 
>>> support
>>> seems minimal at this point given that v1.0 was just released last 
>>> month.
>>> There is also some discussion on the DAML site about synergy and 
>>> backward
>>> compatibility with OWL mainly via WSML.  Can someone perhaps 
>>> enlighten me
>>> about how these standards inter-relate?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>>> //
>>> Guess there are others who would want to find out too!
>>> Cheers.  =ppy
>>> --     (013)

>>> Duane Nickull wrote ed, 15 Jun 2005 11:39:25 -0700:
>>>> Thank you Peter, Nicolas.
>>>> M. Yim, would you consider placing an subject on our next agenda to 
>>>> discuss a possible invitation to the gentlemen below to present to 
>>>> our Group?
>>>> Duane
>>>> Peter F Brown wrote Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:48:38 +0200:
>>>>> Duane:
>>>>> WSMO was presented in detail last week at the W3 semantic web 
>>>>> services workshop in Innsbruck, Austria - WSMO's "home base", as it 
>>>>> is largely promoted by the Innsbruck-based Digital Enterprise 
>>>>> Research Institute (DERI), with considerable support from the European
>>> Commission.
>>>>> There is some concern about the pressure being mounted by DERI to 
>>>>> have WSMO "adopted as a standard" (although not clear by whom: 
>>>>> W3C?). The European Commission will be looking at this over the 
>>>>> coming months.
>>>>> There is a good overview of WSMO at:
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf used at 
>>>>> the workshop. It might be worth contacting John Domingue from the 
>>>>> UK Open University, who made the presentation, and with whom I had 
>>>>> a couple of bried talks during the activity.
>>>>> -Peter    (014)

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Duane 
>>>>> Nickull
>>>>> Sent: 11 June 2005 01:18
>>>>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>>>>> Subject: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology
>>>>> Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this:
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/Submission/2005/SUBM-WSMO-20050603/
>>>>> Might be an idea to extend an invite for a presentation.
>>>>> Duane Nickull 
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