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Re: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology

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From: Nicolas F Rouquette <nicolas.rouquette@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:57:35 -0700
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It might be good to have a planning discussion about this.    (01)

There could be 3 options:    (02)

1) presentation of WSMO    (03)

2) presentation of SWSF    (04)

3) the practical and strategic aspects of using WSMO and/or SWSF, for 
what, when, etc...    (05)

Personally, 1) + 2) would be a weak approximation of the concerns that 
arise w.r.t. 3), the "real" issue.
As I menitioned earlier, if you read some of the fine print in the WSMO 
and SWSF docs, there is
important wisdom and caution that the people behind the spec believe is 
important enough to
mention explicitly in these specs. However, it is difficult for 
non-experts to have enough depth
about these related specs to make heads & tails of these bits and pieces 
of wisdom to go through
a checklist of questions/answers to decide which of these approaches is 
better suited to a given problem.    (06)

I'm not saying we can expect magic answers but we could start to ask the 
folks in WSMO and SWSF
to help us organize  a discussion where we could start a simple 
checklist of, say, the top ten questions
they would advise/recommend practitioners to think about in choosing one 
vs. the other and some kind
of illustration/example to get an intuitive feel to relate these 
questions to someone's own concerns/project/task/work...    (07)

-- Nicolas.    (08)

Duane Nickull wrote:    (09)

> Thank you Peter, Nicolas.
>
> M. Yim, would you consider placing an subject on our next agenda to 
> discuss a possible invitation to the gentlemen below to present to our 
> Group?
>
> Duane
>
> Peter F Brown wrote:
>
>> Duane:
>> WSMO was presented in detail last week at the W3 semantic web services
>> workshop in Innsbruck, Austria - WSMO's "home base", as it is largely
>> promoted by the Innsbruck-based Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>> (DERI), with considerable support from the European Commission.
>>
>> There is some concern about the pressure being mounted by DERI to 
>> have WSMO
>> "adopted as a standard" (although not clear by whom: W3C?). The European
>> Commission will be looking at this over the coming months.
>>
>> There is a good overview of WSMO at:
>> http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf used at the
>> workshop. It might be worth contacting John Domingue from the UK Open
>> University, who made the presentation, and with whom I had a couple 
>> of bried
>> talks during the activity.
>>
>> -Peter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Duane 
>> Nickull
>> Sent: 11 June 2005 01:18
>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>> Subject: [ontolog-forum] Modeling Ontology
>>
>> Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/Submission/2005/SUBM-WSMO-20050603/
>>
>> Might be an idea to extend an invite for a presentation.
>>
>> Duane Nickull
>>
>>
>>
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