Re: [ontology-summit] Hackathon: BACnet Ontology

["MacPherson, Deborah" <dmacpherson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Somewhere in this discussion is a problem that is the essence of what has been holding up progress in the facilities domain.

There are ways to publish technical requirements or test for conformance online for free, and pay (even substantially) to participate in the working groups or have voting privileges. For example OGC, W3C.

 

I can even see being able to own a part name or number within a larger communication machine that could be mapped to a generic form for broader exchange purposes. For example “13-57 13 15 Dining and Drinking Spaces” versus “The Sand Bar and Grille”

 

Depending on the domain, or need for cross disciplinary discussion, many on the  IP-protected side have no interest in supporting, or will even actively stops progress, on a common model. There is also the problem of failed common models that do not work, will not accommodate different object definitions - from software to software or industry model to industry model - without loss of data or functionality. Bentley systems has stepped forward in this white paper on the IFC model to say actually – the emperor has no clothes on. See pages 6 and 7 “Round Tripping”

 

For some reason I think ontologies might be a way these IP-With-Open problems might be fixed but maybe I am wrong or wishing for too much.

 

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From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon Spero
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 5:25 PM
To: Ontology Summit 2013 discussion
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Hackathon: BACnet Ontology

 

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Peter R. Benson <Peter.Benson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Deborah, IP is a real issue. We designed the eOTD to try to resolve some of
these issues. In a dictionary the IP resides in the representation but also
in the identifiers or codes as these are always copyright.

 

That is not entirely clear;  see e.g.  SOUTHCO, INC v. KANEBRIDGE CORPORATION (

 http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/021243pe.pdf ), where part numbers were found to be not protected (but see also how Alito takes care to distinguish Delta Dental )

 

Simon

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