Re: [ontolog-forum] example of Science and Indian Scripture blog..

[Pavithra <pavithra_kenjige@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dr Sowa,

 

I believe there is deliberate ambiguity sometimes while recording  the procedures in science, as you said, and sometimes it is a matter of using an existing word in a symbolic way.    Also there are new words and new sematics of the words  in each language all the time that adds to the complexity.

Simple example we all use the operating system "Windows"  and there are windows on the  walls of a buidings ..

 

But scientific terminalogy is harder in other languages than in English.   Because the rest of the world just uses English scientific words as part of the spoken language just for ease of use.  .   So written language translation is gets harder.    My brother sometimes writes books and scientific fiction in our mother tongue.    Even though I have known that language all my life, I have a hard time reading his published books .   He does laugh at me when the translation does not come out well..  

 

In response to your knowledge management issue, along with ancient cultures, there are languages that have evolved and changed dramatically over a period of time and we will find that as a added complexity as well..    It takes a long time to find the correct version of ancient text and needs funding and things..  

 

And for Azamat,  I am dissapointed that I did not find your name in the program committee list.  However,  the world is moving towards civil nuclear energy usage treaties or MOA ..  to maintain a peaceful relationships.   Hope that  will work for the rest of the world...  and India and USA and Russia has signed such MOAs.. 

 

Regards,

Pavithra

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 9/13/09, John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] example of Science and Indian Scripture blog..
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 3:06 AM

Pavitrha,

Those are fascinating and intriguing documents.  There is a lot
of evidence of advanced learning that was usually kept secret.
The alchemists had deliberately confusing and misleading
terminology and symbols that were designed to be passed down
from master to apprentice, but not to outsiders.

Even in Plato's academy, there was certain "esoteric" knowledge
that was reserved for the "insiders", as opposed to the
"exoteric" knowledge that was openly discussed in public.

I notice the following passage in one of the files you cited:

> There were many scriptures about these sciences, many of which
> have been lost and many have disappeared with the people who
> knew them because we have always believed that knowledge should
> not fall into the hands of unrightfully people.

Source:
http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=184&page=22

That kind of secrecy can enable small pockets of people to achieve
an advanced level of knowledge, but it is difficult to sustain the
development.  And outside groups have to start from scratch in trying
to reinvent it.

The experimenters might discover a lot of recipes by trial and error,
but the theoreticians don't have access to the broad range of data
from which they might derive general principles and laws of nature.
That doesn't lead to the sustained growth of an integrated science
and technology that everybody can study, learn, and build on.

John Sowa


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