http://www.geocities.com/lavlesh/More_About_india/ancient_city_found.htm "For some time it has been established
that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under
construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on
investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the
region. Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic
blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most
of the buildings and probably a half-million people. One researcher estimates
that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in
1945."6500 BC, Mahabharata:
...a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of
smoke and flame As bright as the thousand suns Rose in all its
splendour... a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke
clouds... ...the cloud of smoke rising after its first explosion
formed into expanding round circles like the opening of giant
parasols...
..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt, A gigantic messenger of death, Which reduced to
ashes The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas. ...The corpses
were so burned As to be unrecognisable. The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause, And the birds turned white.
After a few hours All
foodstuffs were infected... ...to escape from this fire The soldiers
threw themselves in streams To wash themselves and their
equipment.
Very engaging reading. Thank you, Pavithra, for
the info about ancient atomic bombs and nuclear warfare. Now i wonder
which traditional story this narration belongs: myth,
legend, folktale, or just fable. Do we meet here a new branch of mythology, Nuclear Mythology?
Then it's time for the western archeologists to leave the ancient Egypt,
with its pyramid technologies and immortality techniques as mummies, and move to
India, taking its ancient Vedic literature as a research report. It is so
mind-boggling: flying machines, astronauts, cosmic projectiles, nuclear
weapons, death-rays, and atomic warfare. Maybe, we find out what
caused the Tunguska Event: an asteroid's crash or an UFO nuclear reactor or
Tesla's energy weapon. Then we also need to investigate why the U.S. government
crushed his inventions, rediscovered from the Atlantis civilizatons:
anti-gravity, time-travel, death-ray, beam weapon, and thought machines.
Especially, why they quashed the thought machines. Now i have to waste my precious time for its new
redicovering. Under Nuclear Mythology, all
the legends of the ancient great powers, the Rama Empire, Atlantis, Osiris (the
Mediterranean Empire), even the Sodom and Gomorrah's destruction, may find some
rationale. What most gladdens me: the soviets and the americans had been
wiser than the Atlanteans and the Ramas, to head off a total mutual nuclear
devastation.
We need a comprehensive and consistent
world view of all things, the past history inclusive, i.e., we need a global
ontology as much as never before.
Azamat
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Science and Indian Scripture blog..
Dr. Sowa
Here is an example of reserach on Ancient Hindu Scriptures and
Science... I got this from a Ravimpillai's blog
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Ancient Indian text gives directions on how to make a battery
The Agastya Samhita, an ancient Indian text, gives directions on
how to make a battery: "Place a well-cleaned copper plate in an
earthenware vessel. Cover it first by copper sulfate and then moist
sawdust. After that put a mercury-amalgamated-zinc sheet on top of
an energy known by the twin name of Mitra-Varuna. Water will be
split by this current into Pranavayu and Udanavayu. A chain of one
hundred jars is said to give a very active and effective force." By
the way, Mitra- Varuna is now called cathode-anode, and Pranavayu
and Udanavayu are to us oxygen and hydrogen, respectively.
http://www.geocities.com/lavlesh/More_About_india/ancient_city_found.htm
Electrical Science
http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage...
Rao Saheb Krishnaji Vajhe had passed the engineering exam in 1891
from Pune. While looking for scriptures related to science, he found
a few pages of the Agastya Samhita with Damodar Tryambak Joshi of
Ujjain. These belonged to around Shaka Samvat 1550. Later on, after
reading the said description in the pages of the Samhita, Dr.
M.C.Sahastrabuddhe, the Head of the Sanskrit Department in Nagpur
felt that the description was very similar to that of Daniel Cell.
So he gave it to P.P. Hole, the Professor of Engineering at Nagpur,
with a request to investigate. Agastya's sources were as follows:
Sansthapya Mrinmaya Patre Tamrapatram Susanskritam
Chhadyechhikhigriven Chardrarbhih Kashthpamsubhih.
Dastaloshto Nidhatavyah Pardachhaditastah Sanyogajjayte Tejo
Mitravarunsangyitam. —(Agastya Samhita)
"Take an earthen pot, place a copper sheet, and put the
shikhigreeva in it. Then, smear it with wet sawdust, mercury and
zinc. Then, if you join the wires, it will give rise to
Mitravarunashakti."
When Mr. Hole an his friend started preparing the apparatus on the
basis of the above description, they could understand all the things
except shikhigreeva. On checking the Sanskrit dictionary, they
understood that it meant the neck of a peacock. So, he and his
friend went to Maharaj Bagh and asked the chief when a peacock would
die in his zoo. This angered the gentleman. Then they told him that
they needed its neck for an experiment. The gentleman asked them to
give in an application. Later, when during a conversation, they
narrated this to an Ayurveda expert, he burst out laughing and said
that here it did not mean the neck of a peacock, but a substance of
that colour, that is copper sulphate. This solved the problem. Thus,
a cell was formed and measured with a digital multimeter. It had an
open circuit voltage of 1.38 volts and short circuit current of 23
milli amperes.
The information that the experiment was successful was conveyed to
Dr. M.C. Sahastryabuddhe. This cell was exhibited on August 7, 1990
before the scholars of the fourth general meeting at the Swadeshi
Vigyan Sanshodhan Sanstha, Nagpur. It was then realised that the
description was of the electric cell. They investigated as to what
the context was and it was realised that Sage Agastya had said many
things before this.
Anen Jalbhangosti Prano Daneshu Vayushu Evam Shatanam
Kumbhanamsanyogkaryakritsmritah. —(Agastya Samhita)
He says that if we use the power of 100 earthen pots on water, then
water will change its form into life-giving oxygen and floating
hydrogen.
Vayubandhakvastren Nibaddho Yanmastake Udanah Swalaghutve
Bibhartyakashayanakam. —(Agastya Samhita-Shilp Shastra)
If hydrogen is contained in an air tight cloth, it can be used in
aerodynamics, i.e. it will fly in air.
Kritrimswarnarajatalepah Satkritiruchyate —(Shukra Niti)
A layer of polish of artificial gold or silver is called satkriti
(good deed.) Yavksharamyodhanau Sushaktjalsannidhau.
Aachhadyati Tattamram Swarnen Rajten Va Suvarnliptam
Tattamram Shatkumbhmiti Smritam. —(Agastya Samhita)
In an iron vessel and in a strong acidic medium, gold or silver
nitrate covers copper with a layer of gold or silver. The copper
that is covered by gold is called shatakumbha or artificial gold.
Rao Saheb Vajhe, who spent his life in rummaging the Indian
scientific scriptures, and discovering various experiments, gave
different names to electricity on the basis of the Agastya Samhita
and other scriptures and that electricity is created in different
ways.
1. Lightning—created by friction of silken cloth 2.
Saudamini—created from friction of gems. 3. Electricity—created by
clouds 4. Shatakumbhi—created by 100 cells or pots 5.
Hridani—stored or assimilated electricity 6. Ashani—born of magnetic
bar.
Agastya Samhita also contains an account of how electricity can be
used for electroplating. He also discovered a way to polish gold,
silver, and copper with a battery. Hence, Agastya is also called one
who is `Battery Born'.
(This book is available with Ocean Books(P)Ltd.,4/19, Asaf Ali
Road, New Delhi-110 002.)
--- On Sat, 9/12/09, John
F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From:
John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum]
UK apology for its treatment of Turing To: "[ontolog-forum]"
<ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc:
paoladimaio10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009,
5:56 PM
Pavithra, I would certainly agree that the
ancient Indians and other great civilizations of the past had
highly developed bodies of knowledge. But a great deal of knowledge
has been common to humanity for many millennia. > For
example, ancient Indians knew that one needs oxygen from the >
air to be alive and vibrant.. and called it "Pranavayu" and >
many yogas still revolves around circulating oxygen within the >
different parts of ones body .. from head to toe to
rejuvenate > the body... such knowledge is science and
today's science agrees > with it.. Yes, but I doubt that
they had done the experiments to distinguish the components O and
N. It's hard to believe that there were any human societies
that did not understand the need to breathe. It's also hard
to distinguish discoveries made by different civilizations across
the silk road from China to Egypt and Greece. They had
been trading, communicating, and fighting with each for thousands
of years. Following is a book co-authored by Karl-Erik Sveiby
(the man who coined the term 'Knowledge Management') and an
Australian aborigine named Tex Skuthorpe: http://treadinglightly.sveiby.com/The title
is "Treading Lightly" and the subtitle is "The Hidden Knowledge of
the World's Oldest People" -- that is the accumulated wisdom of the
native Australians who had been isolated from other human societies
for about 40,000 years. For various articles by Sveiby,
including material related to that book and other material related
to knowledge management, see http://www.sveiby.com/articles/John
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