http://www.geocities.com/lavlesh/More_About_india/ancient_city_found.htm  "For some time it has been established 
that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under 
construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on 
investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the 
region. Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic 
blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most 
of the buildings and probably a half-million people. One researcher estimates 
that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in 
1945."6500 BC, Mahabharata: 
...a single projectile 
 Charged with all the power of the Universe.  An incandescent column of 
smoke and flame  As bright as the thousand suns  Rose in all its 
splendour...  a perpendicular explosion  with its billowing smoke 
clouds...  ...the cloud of smoke  rising after its first explosion 
 formed into expanding round circles  like the opening of giant 
parasols...  
..it was an unknown weapon, 
 An iron thunderbolt,  A gigantic messenger of death,  Which reduced to 
ashes  The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.  ...The corpses 
were so burned  As to be unrecognisable.  The hair and nails fell out; 
 Pottery broke without apparent cause,  And the birds turned white. 
 
After a few hours  All 
foodstuffs were infected...  ...to escape from this fire  The soldiers 
threw themselves in streams  To wash themselves and their 
equipment.  
 Very engaging reading. Thank you, Pavithra, for 
the info about ancient atomic bombs and nuclear warfare. Now i wonder 
which traditional story this narration belongs: myth, 
legend, folktale, or just fable. Do we meet here a new branch of mythology, Nuclear Mythology? 
Then it's time for the western archeologists to leave the ancient Egypt, 
with its pyramid technologies and immortality techniques as mummies, and move to 
India, taking its ancient Vedic literature as a research report. It is so 
mind-boggling: flying machines, astronauts, cosmic projectiles, nuclear 
weapons, death-rays, and atomic warfare. Maybe, we find out what 
caused the Tunguska Event: an asteroid's crash or an UFO nuclear reactor or 
Tesla's energy weapon. Then we also need to investigate why the U.S. government 
crushed his inventions, rediscovered from the Atlantis civilizatons: 
anti-gravity, time-travel, death-ray, beam weapon, and thought machines. 
Especially, why they quashed the thought machines. Now i have to waste my precious time for its new 
redicovering. Under Nuclear Mythology, all 
the legends of the ancient great powers, the Rama Empire, Atlantis, Osiris (the 
Mediterranean Empire), even the Sodom and Gomorrah's destruction, may find some 
rationale. What most gladdens me: the soviets and the americans had been 
wiser than the Atlanteans and the Ramas, to head off a total mutual nuclear 
devastation.  
We need a comprehensive and consistent 
world view of all things, the past history inclusive, i.e., we need a global 
ontology as much as never before. 
Azamat  
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         Dr. Sowa   
          
          
        Here is an example of reserach on Ancient Hindu Scriptures and 
        Science... I got this from a Ravimpillai's blog 
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        Ancient Indian text gives directions on how to make a battery  
        The Agastya Samhita, an ancient Indian text, gives directions on 
        how  to make a battery: "Place a well-cleaned copper plate in an 
         earthenware vessel. Cover it first by copper sulfate and then moist 
         sawdust. After that put a mercury-amalgamated-zinc sheet on top of 
        an  energy known by the twin name of Mitra-Varuna. Water will be 
        split by  this current into Pranavayu and Udanavayu. A chain of one 
        hundred jars  is said to give a very active and effective force." By 
        the way, Mitra-  Varuna is now called cathode-anode, and Pranavayu 
        and Udanavayu are to  us oxygen and hydrogen, respectively. 
         http://www.geocities.com/lavlesh/More_About_india/ancient_city_found.htm 
        
        Electrical Science  
        http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage... 
        
        Rao Saheb Krishnaji Vajhe had passed the engineering exam in 1891 
        from  Pune. While looking for scriptures related to science, he found 
        a few  pages of the Agastya Samhita with Damodar Tryambak Joshi of 
        Ujjain.  These belonged to around Shaka Samvat 1550. Later on, after 
        reading  the said description in the pages of the Samhita, Dr. 
         M.C.Sahastrabuddhe, the Head of the Sanskrit Department in Nagpur 
        felt  that the description was very similar to that of Daniel Cell. 
        So he  gave it to P.P. Hole, the Professor of Engineering at Nagpur, 
        with a  request to investigate. Agastya's sources were as follows: 
        
         Sansthapya Mrinmaya Patre  Tamrapatram Susanskritam 
         Chhadyechhikhigriven Chardrarbhih  Kashthpamsubhih. 
         Dastaloshto Nidhatavyah  Pardachhaditastah  Sanyogajjayte Tejo 
         Mitravarunsangyitam.  —(Agastya Samhita) 
         "Take an earthen pot, place a copper sheet, and put the 
        shikhigreeva  in it. Then, smear it with wet sawdust, mercury and 
        zinc. Then, if you  join the wires, it will give rise to 
        Mitravarunashakti." 
         When Mr. Hole an his friend started preparing the apparatus on the 
         basis of the above description, they could understand all the things 
         except shikhigreeva. On checking the Sanskrit dictionary, they 
         understood that it meant the neck of a peacock. So, he and his 
        friend  went to Maharaj Bagh and asked the chief when a peacock would 
        die in  his zoo. This angered the gentleman. Then they told him that 
        they  needed its neck for an experiment. The gentleman asked them to 
        give in  an application. Later, when during a conversation, they 
        narrated this  to an Ayurveda expert, he burst out laughing and said 
        that here it did  not mean the neck of a peacock, but a substance of 
        that colour, that  is copper sulphate. This solved the problem. Thus, 
        a cell was formed  and measured with a digital multimeter. It had an 
        open circuit voltage  of 1.38 volts and short circuit current of 23 
        milli amperes. 
         The information that the experiment was successful was conveyed to 
        Dr.  M.C. Sahastryabuddhe. This cell was exhibited on August 7, 1990 
        before  the scholars of the fourth general meeting at the Swadeshi 
        Vigyan  Sanshodhan Sanstha, Nagpur. It was then realised that the 
        description  was of the electric cell. They investigated as to what 
        the context was  and it was realised that Sage Agastya had said many 
        things before  this. 
         Anen Jalbhangosti Prano Daneshu  Vayushu  Evam Shatanam 
         Kumbhanamsanyogkaryakritsmritah.  —(Agastya Samhita) 
         He says that if we use the power of 100 earthen pots on water, then 
         water will change its form into life-giving oxygen and floating 
         hydrogen. 
         Vayubandhakvastren Nibaddho  Yanmastake  Udanah Swalaghutve 
         Bibhartyakashayanakam.  —(Agastya Samhita-Shilp Shastra) 
         If hydrogen is contained in an air tight cloth, it can be used in 
         aerodynamics, i.e. it will fly in air. 
         Kritrimswarnarajatalepah  Satkritiruchyate  —(Shukra Niti) 
         A layer of polish of artificial gold or silver is called satkriti 
         (good deed.)  Yavksharamyodhanau  Sushaktjalsannidhau. 
         Aachhadyati Tattamram Swarnen  Rajten Va  Suvarnliptam 
        Tattamram  Shatkumbhmiti Smritam.  —(Agastya Samhita) 
         In an iron vessel and in a strong acidic medium, gold or silver 
         nitrate covers copper with a layer of gold or silver. The copper 
        that  is covered by gold is called shatakumbha or artificial gold. 
        
         Rao Saheb Vajhe, who spent his life in rummaging the Indian 
        scientific  scriptures, and discovering various experiments, gave 
        different names  to electricity on the basis of the Agastya Samhita 
        and other  scriptures and that electricity is created in different 
        ways. 
         1. Lightning—created by friction of silken cloth  2. 
        Saudamini—created from friction of gems.  3. Electricity—created by 
        clouds  4. Shatakumbhi—created by 100 cells or pots  5. 
        Hridani—stored or assimilated electricity  6. Ashani—born of magnetic 
        bar. 
         Agastya Samhita also contains an account of how electricity can be 
         used for electroplating. He also discovered a way to polish gold, 
         silver, and copper with a battery. Hence, Agastya is also called one 
         who is `Battery Born'. 
         (This book is available with Ocean Books(P)Ltd.,4/19, Asaf Ali 
        Road,  New Delhi-110 002.) 
 
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        F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  
         From: 
          John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] 
          UK apology for its treatment of Turing To: "[ontolog-forum]" 
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          paoladimaio10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 
          5:56 PM
  
          Pavithra, I would certainly agree that the 
          ancient Indians and other great civilizations of the past had 
          highly developed bodies of knowledge. But a great deal of knowledge 
          has been common to humanity for many millennia. > For 
          example, ancient Indians knew that one needs oxygen from the > 
          air to be alive and vibrant.. and called it "Pranavayu" and > 
          many yogas still revolves around circulating oxygen within the > 
          different parts of ones body ..  from head to toe to 
          rejuvenate > the body...  such knowledge is science and 
          today's science agrees > with it.. Yes, but I doubt that 
          they had done the experiments to distinguish the components O and 
          N.  It's hard to believe that there were any human societies 
          that did not understand the need to breathe.  It's also hard 
          to distinguish discoveries made by different civilizations across 
          the silk road from China to Egypt and Greece.  They had 
          been trading, communicating, and fighting with each for thousands 
          of years. Following is a book co-authored by Karl-Erik Sveiby 
          (the man who coined the term 'Knowledge Management') and an 
          Australian aborigine named Tex Skuthorpe:     http://treadinglightly.sveiby.com/The title 
          is "Treading Lightly" and the subtitle is "The Hidden Knowledge of 
          the World's Oldest People" -- that is the accumulated wisdom of the 
          native Australians who had been isolated from other human societies 
          for about 40,000 years. For various articles by Sveiby, 
          including material related to that book and other material related 
          to knowledge management, see     http://www.sveiby.com/articles/John 
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