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Re: [ontolog-forum] ISO merged ontology effort "MCO"

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From: "Richard H. McCullough" <rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:08:59 -0700
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Hi Mike    (01)

I'm glad to hear those distinctions work so well for you.    (02)

Sometimes, they are not so clear to me.
And I wonder why does it matter
whether a contract, for example,
is continuant or occurrent,
physical or abstract,
independent or relative or mediating?
I focus on actions and interactions.    (03)

I  do wonder about two things.
(1) Do you apply all three distinctions together?
If so, you end up with only 12 subclasses of Thing,
and I would view all the other intermediate classes
as unused "clutter".
(2) When you add whole/part, set, time and so on --
how does that affect the ease of use?    (04)

Dick McCullough
http://mkrmke.org
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] ISO merged ontology effort "MCO"    (05)


>I absolutely propose the opposite.
>
> The three sets of top level classes in the KR ontology are fundamental,
> technology neutral and easy to explain to non technical business subject
> matter experts. Any class of "Thing" in a mid-level ontology of common
> things (for example contracts, money, processes, events, parameters) can
> be identified as being a child or descendent of one thing in each of
> those layers (e.g. an independent, concrete, continuant thing). To this
> I would add whole/part, set, time and so on.
>
> I have done this, and it works, and people like it, understand it and
> use it to provide practical business review and validation of semantics
> models.
>
> It is precisely because so many of the existing upper ontologies do not
> seem to have disposed themselves around these three layers, that I have
> found it difficult to use them directly. I admit I probably need to look
> more closely at Cyc though.
>
> Mike
>
> Richard H. McCullough wrote:
>> Here's my two cents worth.
>>
>> I offer as a reasonable standard the tabula rasa ontology
>>
>>     http://mkrmke.org/kb/TabulaRasa.html
>>
>> It has a small number of fundamental concepts which are likely
>> to be used in all applications.
>>
>> By contrast, most other ontologies are similar to Sowa's ontology
>>
>>     http://mkrmke.org/knowledge/rhm/theory/Sowa/SowaOntology.html
>>
>> which "mixes" three different views of existents, thereby "cluttering" 
>> the
>> ontology with concepts which may not be used in a particular application.
>>
>>
>> Dick McCullough
>> http://mkrmke.org
>>
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