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From: "Patrick Cassidy" <pat@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:49:32 -0500
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[pc] > >  Cost of lack of semantic interoperability: assume 100 billion per
> > year (0.7% of GDP)
> 
[PH] > Just in passing, where do you get that figure from?
>    (01)

(1) Jan Walker, Eric Pan, Douglas Johnston, Julia Adler-Milstein, David W.
Bates and Blackford Middleton, The Value of Healthcare Information Exchange
and Interoperability Health Affairs, 19 January 2005:
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/content/full/hlthaff.w5.10/DC1
(2) http://www.bfrl.nist.gov/oae/publications/gcrs/04867.pdf
(3) http://www.nist.gov/director/prog-ofc/report99-1.pdf    (02)

Final figure conservatively extrapolated from these studies.    (03)

PatC    (04)

Patrick Cassidy
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cassidy@xxxxxxxxx    (05)


> -----Original Message-----
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> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pat Hayes
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:59 AM
> To: [ontolog-forum]
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] standard ontology
> 
> 
> On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Patrick Cassidy wrote:
> 
> > My difficulty with just waiting until some "large and economically
> > important
> > community of practice" evolves is, that on the basis of the
> > experience of
> > the past fifteen years, this process could take several decades, or
> > longer.
> > If here is any truth to the estimate that lack of semantic
> > interoperability
> > costs the country $100 billion per year in lost productivity, then it
> > appears to me to be foolishness to let a few trillion dollars of
> > losses
> > accumulate rather than to attack the problem directly by creating
> that
> > "community of practice" by funding its creation.  That is the
> > essence of the
> > proposal that we fund a consortium of 100 or so participants who will
> > develop, and then  test in their own applications, some foundation
> > ontology
> > suitable to all of them.  The sooner such a community does develop,
> > the
> > sooner the benefits of a common ontology can begin to be felt.
> >
> > One might argue with the estimate of losses due to semantic
> > interoperability
> > - fine, let us try to arrive at an estimate we can believe in.  One
> > can also
> > argue about the likelihood of any given proposal of solving the
> > problem.
> > Fine with that too.  But since the costs are economical, a rational
> > discussion should include a cost-benefit analysis.  Here's one try:
> >  Cost of lack of semantic interoperability: assume 100 billion per
> > year
> > (0.7% of GDP)
> 
> Just in passing, where do you get that figure from?
> 
> >
> >  Portion of that cost that could be reduced by a common foundation
> > ontology: 1/5 (20 billion per year)
> 
> Here's where we disagree. I suggest that the correct proportion here
> would be more like 0.01 percent. Not because it wouldn't work if
> people would all use it, but because people will not in fact use it.
> 
> Pat H.
> 
> 
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