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Re: [ontolog-forum] Next steps in using ontologies as standards

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From: Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:59:37 -0500
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I would be happy to install the wiki on one of my servers with whatever 
name everyone likes.
I will even pay for the domain registration for the first year, if that 
will help. I have the infrastructure to manage the domain to set up 
www.xxx.org and wiki.xxx.org.
My only restriction would be that we use MediaWiki (Wikipedia's base) 
since I already know how to set that up quickly and I am pretty rushed 
these days.    (01)

With regards to 2). I would tend to err on the side of openness and make 
it as easy as possibly for people to contribute. It works well for 
Wikipedia and as long as people are not abusive or silly, it will 
maximize the content.
We can use the Wikipedia policies (copyright, post only stuff that is 
yours or in the public domain, etc.)
I would prefer to not compete with standards bodies who try to endorse 
points of views or particular ontological strategies but rather act as a 
place where anything interesting gets documented and any comments are 
welcome as long as they are not abusive or silly.    (02)

I think that this would be a big help to people building applications or 
looking for high level sets of ontologies with compatible or 
harmonizable foundations to sew together.    (03)


Ron    (04)

John F. Sowa wrote:
> Ron,
>
> I want to point out that my proposal requires a minimal amount
> of funding to get started.
>
>  > I am not suggesting that we should build a full OR. I believe
>  > that there is a project currently underway. I hope that the
>  > functional requirements that are outlined below will be considered
>  > in that process.
>
> I am not proposing that we begin by developing *any* ontologies.
> The starting work requires less effort than this group puts into
> a hotly debated email thread:
>
>   1. Define the operators that relate the theories in the hierarchy.
>      Adolf Lindenbaum kindly did the theoretical work for us about
>      80 years ago, and I summarized it in Sections 2, 3, and 4 of
>      the following paper:
>
>      http://www.jfsowa.com/logic/theories.htm
>
>   2. The next point is to develop a set of policies about how
>      to handle contributions, relate them, evaluate them, etc.
>      As Elisa said, the OBO has a well developed framework that
>      does much of what we need, and we could start by identifying
>      what they have accomplished that we can adopt, and what more
>      we would like to add.
>
> After these two points have been established (or even during the
> debate about them), Peter Yim or anybody else on the list that
> wants to do so could set up a Foundation Ontology wiki.
>
> We would also need a cute logo, design graphics, and a URL with
> an appropriate name that is dedicated to the Foundation Ontology.
> That can also be set up in parallel.
>
> The ontologies themselves would come from donations.  Some of
> those that are already available as open source could be adapted
> very quickly by adding the appropriate metadata and making a
> place for them in the hierarchy.  They need not be physically
> moved from their starting places, but we do need to establish
> some controls for versioning, etc., which are often minimal
> or nonexistent in open-source resources.
>
> My point is that we can begin this work today with mostly
> volunteer effort.  If we do a decent job, the funding will come
> later.  But we need to do something solid to demonstrate that
> this group is capable of accomplishing something.  Otherwise,
> hope for multimillion-dollar grants is a pipe dream.
>
> John
>
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